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internet bandwidth options

Asked by: peterjohndevries

Our organization with 50 staff currently utilizes an ADSL connection rated at 6Mbps download.
We are finding this is not sufficient for our needs and usage degrades to <500kbps during the day. We are getting consistent 4Mb/s dowwnload at the router so we don't necessarily see a reduction in the pipe coming in

We are on a switched Gb Ethernet internally.

Looking for some guidance on next options. First telco I spoke to immediately started talkking about T1 options. I don't undersatnd why I would go for a 1.5Mbs line. I understand that it is dedicated, usually has an SLA associated with it, but in the end run, it would seem that I am reducing my bandwidth and this will not solve my actuall need.

Any general comments that can clar this up for me? I also see options to go ADSL up to 16Mbs or alternatively E10/Fibre routes but currently have not received the prices and am unsure if these will be cost effective.

Toronto downtown located very close to Telco locations

Any pointers or whitepaper pointers would be appreciated

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2009-08-13 at 14:16:36ID24651267
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Answers

 

by: TXGeekGirlPosted on 2009-08-13 at 14:26:43ID: 25093223

Looking at anything Fiber will be more expensive then a dedicated T-1.

Couple of options.  In your area, you should have a cable/or satellite provider.  The reason I suggest that is some cable providers can install piggybacks to help a smaller sized business instead of them making the jump to a dedicated line.

HOWEVER, if you are expecting to have a large flow of data or graphical data passing in and out of your business, you will want to go for a T-1.  With 50 employees, you are on the verge of a mid-sized bandwidth user. A T-1 will allow your company to grow since you already have the GB switch internally.

 

by: mutahirPosted on 2009-08-13 at 14:36:28ID: 25093313

What i would suggest before making the move and if you haven't done already is to monitor your routers traffic (type)

You may also, look at something like a Dual wan router (get TWO adsl connections)

If you have alot of mail traffic you can simply create a load balance policy to route that traffic via the specified wan port
Most dual wan routers have QOS as well ;

http://www.draytek.us/enterprise-routers/2950.html

The draytek 2950 offers dual wan support (you would need two adsl MODEMS if you wish to connect to adsl lines to it) it has 5 Gigabit ports so you can uplink it to your GB ethernet ;

it offers a robust content security management, load balance, qos etc

I am sure you can easily get a 2nd adsl line and then you can calculate the cost to see which solution is cheaper.

hope that helps

 

by: peterjohndevriesPosted on 2009-08-13 at 14:39:52ID: 25093339

Hi TxGeekGirl
unfortunately, you have not really answered my questions (btw: I do have a cable secondary line which is used exclusively for our FTP traffic).

The question I still don't understand is how T1 helps at 1.5Mbs versus current ADSL 6Mbs.  To me it means I am getting 1/4 the bandwidth (btw , almost all our traffic is down , not up).
So I am trying to understand why a T1 is considered a step up in network bandwdith when it is considerably slower for more cost (even if dedicated, we have no indiciation that our AdSL itself is not acheving close to 5Mbs throughout the day)

 

by: plug1Posted on 2009-08-14 at 00:45:35ID: 25095895

Go along with what mutahir is suggesting then, combine your existing secondary line with your adsl using a draytek 2820 or above and create a load balance rule to send all of your ftp through the cable line but also set it to use the cable line when your adsl gets congested.

 

by: mutahirPosted on 2009-08-14 at 03:46:34ID: 25096654

You can even create a QOS Policy in which it will prioritize the traffic you choose ;

Plus you would have the option to control what kind of web traffic is allowed/restricted via CSM

I can provide you with proper screen shots to setup firewall filters/csm and allow/restrict sites on your entire network,

I would suggest the draytek model of 2950 (as it supports 250+ VPN Sessions as well), more throughput then 2820 and have two Ethernet wan ports, so your cable broadband would terminate directly into it and you may need a cheap adsl modem to connect your adsl it to its other wan port

hope that helps

 

by: peterjohndevriesPosted on 2009-08-14 at 04:48:45ID: 25096957

Thanks all. I think the solution you are propsing Mutahir is certainly useful for investigation. I am assuming since I have an ADSL connection and a cable modem now, I could simply connect both telco supplied routers into the draytek and then have both connections avaiilable to the internet network as you have described. I'm suggesting this as I am unclear how/if I am able to replace the Telco managed routeres with this device - but by adding this device, it will just add one more hop to the network and shouldn't have any appreciable impact on network performance.

I'll mark the question as answered, but I would certainly still appreciate if ANYONE can answer the real question I asked. Yes, I can do what you are suggesting, but I'm still not sure why the distinction between T1 being the 'business pipe' over ADSL given the slower bandwidth and IF I wanted to move up in bandwidth, what is the next logical, cost effective move?

 

by: peterjohndevriesPosted on 2009-08-14 at 04:50:25ID: 31615543

solution provided for increasing bandwidth using existing services but did not get an answer to next logical connection above ADSL and comparison to T1

 

by: mutahirPosted on 2009-08-14 at 05:04:47ID: 25097048

Reference :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Signal_1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL


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ADSL is connected to a DSLAM in your local exchange, and they can have many users/subscribers using ONE DSLAM ; the dslam in turn is connected to a link which is the total bandwidth a DSLAM would distribute amongst its connected subscribers.

Business broadband offers guaranteed contention ratios ; say 10 users on a dslam with whatever bandwidth they have etc.

SDSL offers a 1:1 contention ratio ; a 2MB SDSL would have a 2MB upload where as a 16MB ADSL offers 1MB or just a bit above that upload

A dedicated T1 line or any dedicated leased line is a connection which costs more ! Why ? because its only you who is using it offering you the full capacity of it ; your provider will let you know what upload/download is available and its usually much better then normal adsl lines.

You can also read this thread for more information : http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Broadband/Q_21902627.html

Hope this helps

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