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BIND (DNS) issue

Asked by: philjones85

i tried to follow "DNS and Bind 4th ed", but must have messed up somewhere.  when using nslookup to check the configuration:
   nslookup www.domain.com   - works fine
   nslookup domain.com            -  doesn't work

(i assume it's supposed to work, it works on yahoo)

hopefully somebody can tell me what i'm doing wrong
this is what my zone file looks like (slightly modified)


$TTL 3h
domain.com. IN SOA ns1.domain.com. name.domain.com. (
                        1       ; serial
                        3h      ; Refresh after 3 hours
                        1h      ; Retry after 1 hour
                        1w      ; Expire after 1 week
                        1h )    ; Negative caching TTL of 1 hour

;
; Name Servers
;

domain.com.    IN NS   ns1.domain.com.
domain.com.    IN NS   ns2.domain.com.

;
; Addresses for the canonical names
;

localhost.domain.com.  IN A    127.0.0.1
ns1.domain.com.        IN A    XXX.XXX.XXX.242 <-- real numbers in my file
ns2.domain.com.        IN A    XXX.XXX.XXX.32   <-- real numbers in my file

;
; Aliases
;

www.domain.com.        IN CNAME        ns1.domain.com.
*.domain.com.          IN CNAME        ns1.domain.com.

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2003-08-04 at 22:13:48ID20699712
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Answers

 

by: S0larPosted on 2003-08-05 at 01:41:00ID: 9078394

in zone file after the string
*.domain.com. IN CNAME ns1.domain.com.

add
domain.com. IN CNAME ns1.domain.com

-------
NOTE : you didn't add the IN record for domain.com in your zone file.
*.domain.com. means [everythin].domain.com, but not domain.com.

 

by: HolariusPosted on 2003-08-05 at 02:17:29ID: 9078760

I guess he wants to access his website by only typing : http://domain.com

In this case, your zone file can be :

$ORIGIN .
$TTL 3h
domain.com IN SOA ns1.domain.com. dnsadmin.domain.com. ( ; the second field is a email address, the first dot is to be replaced by @
                       2003080501       ; serial - often a date... with a serial, don't forget to modify it each time you modify the zone (emacs can take care of it automatically)
                       3h      ; Refresh after 3 hours
                       1h      ; Retry after 1 hour
                       1w      ; Expire after 1 week
                       1h )    ; Negative caching TTL of 1 hour

;
; Name Servers
;

    IN NS   ns1.domain.com. ; you don't have to specify your domain here
    IN NS   ns2.domain.com. ; because it's following your SOA record where it's specified

    IN A xxx.xxx.xxx.242 ; address of the web server  : http://domain.com/

; to avoid .domain.com. on every line
$ORIGIN domain.com.

;
; Addresses for the canonical names
;

localhost  IN A    127.0.0.1
ns1         IN A    XXX.XXX.XXX.242 <-- real numbers in my file
ns2         IN A    XXX.XXX.XXX.32   <-- real numbers in my file

;
; Aliases
;

www        IN CNAME        ns1.domain.com.

 

by: S0larPosted on 2003-08-05 at 02:33:20ID: 9078919

2Holarius:
How does your solution differ from mine? :) Using a IN A instead of CNAME? :)

 

by: S0larPosted on 2003-08-05 at 02:39:01ID: 9078974

2Holarius:
More, you are using two IN A records pointing to the same ip address. IMHO, it is not a good practice.

 

by: philjones85Posted on 2003-08-05 at 07:49:44ID: 9081011

i added "domain.com. IN CNAME ns1.domain.com" as the last line of the file and restarted my dns server, that should update immediately shouldn't it (i mean for me, internally).  i still get an error when i type "nslookup domain.com MYdnsserverIP"

 

by: philjones85Posted on 2003-08-05 at 12:16:12ID: 9082981

[root@ns1 root]# nslookup domain.com
Note:  nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead.  Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing.
Server:         XXX.XXX.XXX.171
Address:        XXX.XXX.XXX.171#53

** server can't find domain.com: SERVFAIL

[root@ns1 root]#


any other ideas?

 

by: sinexecPosted on 2003-08-05 at 12:43:58ID: 9083184

It seems like CNAME records for domain.com are not allowed.
If the address does not change very often,
@       A         xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
is the solution to change it manually.
Otherwise, Dynamic DNS would be a way to dynamically maintain this record up to date. The setback of the latter is that the whole zone would have to be updated dynamically. In other words, you would not be able to change the files in /var/named to change the records in the zone, but you would have to use nsupdate tool.

 

by: philjones85Posted on 2003-08-05 at 12:50:31ID: 9083230

@     A     xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx     <---- works great as the last line of the file, thanks

one more question, if you don't mind.  is that an abbreviation, if so, what would be the unabbreviated line?

i didn't see that in "DNS and Bind", where should the line be placed in the file (logically)?

 

by: HolariusPosted on 2003-08-05 at 14:04:16ID: 9083838

as far as I remember @ is an abbreviation for the current $ORIGIN
full line should be :

domain.com.    A    xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

With its final dot, I think this line can be placed almost everywhere in the file.

2 S0lar:
It seems that bind does not like CNAME for a domain... I've just checked :

[root@tabr named]# named-checkzone dune dune2.zone
dns_master_load: dune2.zone:13: dune: CNAME and other data
dns_master_load: dune2.zone:13: dune: CNAME and other data
dns_master_load: dune2.zone:13: dune: CNAME and other data
zone dune/IN: loading master file dune2.zone: CNAME and other data

Although I dislike to have A records with the same addresses, it seems that we've not further choice :-/

 

by: philjones85Posted on 2003-08-05 at 14:25:17ID: 9084001

Holarius, it appears that your example worked after all.  I didn't try it after SOlar said it was the same as his (his was easier to read since it wasn't the whole file again).  My apologies for not awarding you the points as you were the first to provide an answer.  

Here's the points I owe you.
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_20700736.html

 

by: sinexecPosted on 2003-08-05 at 20:20:30ID: 9085538

> @     A     xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx     <---- works great as the last line of the file, thanks
> one more question, if you don't mind.  is that an abbreviation, if so, what would be the unabbreviated line?
That's right, it's an abbreviation. It is the same as
"domain.com.    IN   A     xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
but less typing.

> where should the line be placed in the file (logically)?
Anywhere after SOA record. This does not really play a role as long as you don't have another line overriding it.

 

by: philjones85Posted on 2003-08-05 at 21:08:27ID: 9085784

thanks again

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