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Virtualbox: How to set connect between host and guest when guest is on a different subnet?

Asked by: johnnybaluba

I've got a host machine receiving IP address from DHCP (192.168.2.x). I have created a guest machine that will have a 172.20.0.x address. I've been able to let them talk together if I use DHCP on the guest as well but then they will be on the same subnet. How do I accomplish network connection between the 192.168.2 and the 172.20.0 networks?

My goal is to have several guest machines in the 172.20.0.x address space that will all talk to each other. So any extra tips on that will be appreciated.

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Answers

 

by: arrkerr1024Posted on 2007-11-29 at 07:16:48ID: 20374137

In short - you need a router.  Something has to route between your 172.20.0.x subnet and your 192.168.2.x subnet.  You could do the routing on your host OS, or you could do it on your local router - depending on what equipment you have.

You could also just give your host machine a secondary IP that is on the 172.20.0.x subnet - that way it will be on both.  But your 172.20.0.x machines won't be able to get on the internet unless something is routing (and NATing) them outwards.

 

by: omarfaridPosted on 2007-11-29 at 10:19:07ID: 20375850

Hi,

As I understood, you will be having guest virtual m/cs on the 172.20.0.x, and the host m/c on 192.168.2.x.

the guest m/cs will talk to each other since all are on the same subnet.

So, if you let the host m/c to be in the 172.20.0.x subnet as well, and configure it as router and set it as the default gateway for the guest m/cs then they can access other networks reachable by the host m/c.

 

by: _jesper_Posted on 2007-11-29 at 10:58:45ID: 20376231

If both machines are connected to a switch and the switch is vlan-capable, you can put them in different VLANs.

I never use a router for the purpose of segregating local area subnets.

 

by: arrkerr1024Posted on 2007-11-29 at 13:21:56ID: 20377438

vlans wouldn't help, that'd just make the problem worse.  vlans are for segregating networks, not allowing them to communicate :-P.  Thats what routers (aka gateways) are for.

 

by: _jesper_Posted on 2007-11-29 at 14:18:29ID: 20377895

Well that's emphatically not true.  I use VLANs extensively where needed and have no problem communicating between subnets.

It's all about the right equipment and configuration for the job.  This is a LAN not a WAN that needs segmenting.

 

by: johnnybalubaPosted on 2007-11-29 at 14:54:09ID: 20378179

I forgot to mention that I don't need 172.20.0.0 to be on the internet, so that makes things easier. It is preferable to get access to other hosts on the 192.168.2.x-lan but not vital.

The guests are using the tap0 network device to communicate with the host. tap0 again is linked to eth0 on the host. tap0 will get the 192.168.2.x address via dhcp. How can I add another (static) address to tap0? Will it handle several ip addresses on the same network device?

 

by: _jesper_Posted on 2007-11-29 at 15:22:35ID: 20378369

If you VLAN the two segments, then they will be seen as two network segments.  

If you're using ISC's DHCP, you would create a separate subnet for the other address space.

Depending upon the type of device that 'tap0' is, you may be able to use one primary IP address and multiple secondaries (from the same netblock on the same interface).

 

by: johnnybalubaPosted on 2007-11-30 at 05:24:28ID: 20381655

How do I VLAN the two segments?

All the guests are running on the same machine so I don't understand how I can make two VLAN's.

This is what I do to set up the bridge between the host and the guest:
On the host:
tunctl -t tap0 -u johnny
ifconfig tap0 0.0.0.0 up
brctl addbr br0
brctl addif br0 eth0 tap0
dhclient br0
ifconfig br0 up
ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0

On the VirtualBox guest:
Network: Adapter 0 -> tap0

Static address: 172.20.0.101 => No connection to host
DHCP address: 192.168.2.x => Connection to host

Can I add an extra address to br0 (which now holds the ip address)? If  so, how?

Output from ifconfig on host (lo removed):
br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:BF:C5:F7
          inet addr:192.168.2.212  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:febf:c5f7/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:2012909 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:345525 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:454508469 (433.4 MiB)  TX bytes:99254194 (94.6 MiB)

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:BF:C5:F7
          inet6 addr: fe80::215:c5ff:febf:c5f7/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:3415300 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:539163 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:964883000 (920.1 MiB)  TX bytes:133660383 (127.4 MiB)
          Interrupt:18

tap0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:FF:85:E6:FB:E2
          inet6 addr: fe80::2ff:85ff:fee6:fbe2/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:137 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:121311 errors:0 dropped:1573334 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
          RX bytes:21227 (20.7 KiB)  TX bytes:19177755 (18.2 MiB)


 

by: _jesper_Posted on 2007-11-30 at 06:15:04ID: 20382030

I've not played with tunnels on linux.  Can you assign an IP address to the tap0 interface?

If so, you can use DHCP to assign the appropriate address.

 

by: Computer101Posted on 2008-02-21 at 15:52:56ID: 20953293

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