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adding mac stations to nt

Asked by: JoeY

i AM PLACING A DSL LINE TO OUR NETWORK AT METRO MINISTRIES BY ATTACHING IT THROUGH A ROUTER INTO A SWITCH
BOX.

HOW WILL I place MAC USERS ON THE NT4 NETWORK TO USE IT FOR UP AND DOWN LOADS

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2001-03-09 at 06:23:33ID20089224
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Answers

 

by: SteveJPosted on 2001-03-09 at 07:11:36ID: 5914615

Do the MACs have ethernet cards and IP stacks?

Steve

 

by: asweinsteinPosted on 2001-03-09 at 09:31:01ID: 5915057

If you are using DHCP on the NT server, the Mac's will get their address from the NT server, and be able access the Internet via the DSL router. Mac's cannot access the MS Proxy server, so they will have go directly through the network. If you want the Mac's to share files and folders with Windows users on the network, you can add file and print services for Macintosh through the network control panel on the NT server. This will allow you to create Mac-accesible shares on the server, as well as Mac-accessible print queues.

 

by: andyalderPosted on 2001-03-09 at 12:51:26ID: 5915360

asweinstein> Macs cannot access the proxy server.
Dunno where you got that from, they can use the web browser settings to use proxy just like windoze users or they can use SOCKS for non-browser applications.

Mac or iMac?
Does the router do NAT?

 

by: asweinsteinPosted on 2001-03-09 at 13:52:34ID: 5915490

Andyalder-

Whoops, should have qualified that. You're right, Macs can use the proxy, but only if NT authentication has been disabled for the clients. I am so used to seeing SBS installations where the MS Proxy client has been installed and NT authentication is set at the server as a requirement for access that I forgot you could disable it.

 

by: JoeYPosted on 2001-03-12 at 08:47:43ID: 5921186

Thanks to all of you. my understanding is now that all i have to do is add them to the nt server, give them an ip. provide a share folder.As ;ong as their ip address is includedThey will automatically get access to the dsl on the router because it is
however where do i get the steps to add the mac on the server and what do i do on the mac station

 

by: DanRPosted on 2001-03-13 at 05:51:20ID: 5924403

I'm not clear on what you want.

Do you want to give Macs access to the Internet?  If so, how are you handling Internet access?  It sounds as if your DSL router is connected directly to your network, not through a proxy.  Is that right?  In that case, you can just have the router assign IP addesses (if it can do DHCP), or manually assign them and make sure the router is set to forward packets from the addresses you assign.  Your NT server has nothing to do with this at all.

Do you want Macs to have access to files on your NT server?  If so, you need to install services for the Mac on your server.  Bring up the Network Control Panel, click on the Services tab, then look down the list.  If you don't see Services for Macintosh, then click on the Add button and pick it from the list of addable services, then click OK a couple of times, put in the NT CD, and, I believe, you reboot.  Then you can create a directory on your NT server which is available to Macs.  Oh, and I think that directory has to be on an NTFS partition, so if you don't have one, get one.

Once you set up a directory to be available to the Macs, they will see it in their Chooser just as if it were a Mac server.

 

by: andyalderPosted on 2001-03-13 at 14:04:33ID: 5926164

JoeY, please confirm whether mac or imac,  the apple machines that come in translucent colours do not behave like macintoshes, more like unics boxes. they run IP rather than apple-squark and services for mac is no use to them (although there is a 3rd party client for them to join a windoze network).

If the machine looks a bit like
www.theapplecollection.com/iMac/iStore/iron.html then treat it as an IP platform rather than a traditional macintosh. Works fine as a web-browser though.

 

by: JoeYPosted on 2001-03-13 at 21:21:22ID: 5926990

Again thanks for helping confirm my assumptions
danr = 1.yes adsl modem attached to router and directly connected to network via an 8 port switch that holds 2 servers and five twelve port hubs
2.yes give mac access using static ip addresses
3.yes give file/resource access
(individual and public folders)network printers
4.Yes on ntfs
5. yes already have service after experiment 2months ago just was not sure if it applied to router/dsl or if i could put their folders anywhere
and yes andyalder they are the new imacs

Ps i am new to both this type of site and to net admin
I tend to read and experiment live ... not a good idea

 

by: andyalderPosted on 2001-03-14 at 11:34:27ID: 5929361

Windows networking for mac can be achieved by installing DAVE on the MACs instead of installing services for mac on the NT server. http://www.thursby.com/products/dave.html easier than having 2 protocols and then they can see the workstations as well as the server.

 

by: JoeYPosted on 2001-03-16 at 06:12:17ID: 5935003

Thanks to you both danr and andy. Now in appreciation, how do i accept and split the points tween you both.

 

by: andyalderPosted on 2001-03-16 at 06:31:49ID: 5935081

Not worth splitting 50 points as CS so busy, award it to Dan with accept comment as answer.

 

by: lrmoorePosted on 2003-06-21 at 11:43:31ID: 8773233

JoeY,
No comment has been added lately (827 days), so it's time to clean up this TA.
I will leave a recommendation in the Cleanup topic area for this question:

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by: YensidModPosted on 2003-06-28 at 18:52:05ID: 8820887

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