Question

Cisco Networking Theory Question

Asked by: Garon

Hello, I am looking for some clarification on a question in one of my Cisco
Networking books. I am asked to explain how a router routes packets, give example networks which show the header transformation that take place and explain the protocols used at each OSI layer.

The only thing I'm not quite sure about is the 'example networks which show the
header transformations that take place'?? Is this some form of network consisting of multple
routed protocols? I'm just not 100% sure on how to interpret this question because I don't recall coming across any examples of 'header transformations'.

Maybe it is something simple that I just overlooked. Anyhow, any insight provided would be appreciated.


Thanks


Garon

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2003-06-04 at 16:42:06ID20637317
Topics

Miscellaneous Networking

,

Network Switches & Hubs

,

Network Auditing Software

Participating Experts
3
Points
125
Comments
7

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. OSI Model
    What are four functions/characteristics of the network layer of the OSI model? (Choose four ) A.It uses a two-part address B.It maintains routing tables C.It uses broadcast addresses D.It establishes network addresses E.It provides access to the LAN media F.It p...
  2. OSI Model
    Hi there, What is the real problem OSI model is trying to solve? How does it impact, say a network student in today's context, does not know about OSI? Things seems to be working so fine now a day, and it makes me wonder to importance of OSI for a student to know prac...
  3. Cisco Switches
    I went to the Cisco Academy for CCNA a while back have not really done any work with cisco after getting my CCNA. I am not sure but during class I believed my instructor said that cisco switchs would share the bandwidth in without limiting it. for instance 100mb into the swit...
  4. Modifying the Cisco VPN client with a custom transform
    I'm trying to modify the default Cisco VPN client installation (ver. 5.0.02.0090) in order to add our own connection profile, as well as automate the installation so there is nothing required from the end user. All the latest versions of the Cisco client are now MSI instead o...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: SMackPosted on 2003-06-04 at 17:26:16ID: 8653285

Well, as far as layer three goes, the only transformation I'm aware of is the Time-to-Live (TTL), which should be decremented per router hop.

In a VLAN environment, a router is usually not the first device to see the packet, so tagging (VLANs), or trunking(ISL or Dot1Q) shouldn't be considered a "routine" thing.

In an MPLS environment, it's concievable that the packet could be assigned an MPLS-specific route for traffic management, but that's not "usual" at this point either.

In an HSRP environment, there's some "magic" done with addressing, but that's primarily at Layer Two - At layer three, each router participating has a base IP address that is represented by a virtual IP address ... again, not necessarily a "usual" thing ... especially at a basic router class.

There are some Layer two transformations: The MAC address of the ingress port is exchanged for the MAC address of the egress port (MAC addresses are only significant on the native segment).

Routers don't change protocols; i.e., you can't switch an IPX packet into an IP packet (well, you sorta can - using a "tunnel" ... like a GRE tunnel): That's not considered a basic router function. If it comes in as an IPX packet (and the router has code to handle an IPX packet) it will leave as an IPX packet (perhaps encapsulated, but it's still basically an IPX packet).  Any protocols that the router doesn't know about are usually dropped. Some routers can be configured to bridge protocols that it can't route.

That's about it for me.....

Good Luck, hope this helps a little.

Scott


 

by: GaronPosted on 2003-06-04 at 21:22:28ID: 8654177

So could this 'header transformation' be the process of encapsulating & decapsulating (or "tunneling") an IP datagram?

So for example: A workstation attached to Router A wants to send a packet to a workstation attached to Router C and A & C are connected through a Router B.
Router A would encapsulate it and send it to Router B where it's decapsulated.
Router B would then compares the packet's destination network address found in the header with Router B's routing table and finds that it will have to send it through Router C.
Router B then re-encapsulates it and sends the packet off to Router C. (decreasing the TTL)
Router C decapsulates the packet to it original form, see's that the destination address points to one of its attached workstations and sends the datagram off to it.

Hmm...did I forget anything? Meh, it's just an example. = )

In theory, doesn't this form of 'Tunneling' represent a type of peer-to-peer network or communication? So to reword the question it would be: "Explain how routers route packets by giving an example of networks (peer-to-peer) using header encapsulations\decapsulations."
Now wouldn't this be a correct way of interpreting the question?
(I'm assuming it's not that complicated)

   

 

by: SMackPosted on 2003-06-05 at 06:16:56ID: 8656821

Well, I'm trying to put it into the context of where the question came from.

At what I percieve the level to be, encapsulation (like tunnels & VLAN), or Tags (like trunking) is probably not on the near horizon, except possibly in a discussion of Serial / WAN protocols (HDLC, PPP, Frame-Relay). WAN protocols don't really change the packet either, it's considered to be just another encapsulation / framing.

Packets going through the router ARE changed (the TTL), FRAMES don't actually go "through" the router, they're stripped at the ingress and rebuilt (with a new MAC address) at the egress.

TTL's of tunneled packets aren't decremented (IIRC). They're encapsulated and sent on, so there's no real changes to the tunneled PACKET ... it just gets wrapped in the host protocol and forwarded.

The top says " give example networks which show the header transformation that take place and explain the protocols used at each OSI layer".

To me that says make a diagram of two (or more) segments with a router in the middle. Each end has a host (Host A and Host B ... ). Walk through the process of when a frame from Host A enters the router, gets processed / evaluated, and what the frame looks like when it leaves the router headed for Host B.

You could probably extend that to include the ARP process (getting the MAC), and discuss the role of the "Default Gateway." How the router matches the address to the routing table / forwarding table may be part of the discussion as well.

If the question only want you to address the issue of header transformation, that's fairly straight forward. If the context of the question wants you to discuss the the routing process ingress-to-egress, then it can get a little more complex.

What are you looking for? What specifically do you want to explain?

Scott

 

by: GaronPosted on 2003-06-05 at 06:41:19ID: 8657097

I was just wondering how this 'Header Transformation' fits in and applies to 'How routers routes packets'. (I'm assuming thats how they intended the question).

 

by: CleanupPingPosted on 2003-08-14 at 19:38:18ID: 9151672

Garon:
This old question needs to be finalized -- accept an answer, split points, or get a refund.  For information on your options, please click here-> http:/help/closing.jsp#1
EXPERTS:
Post your closing recommendations!  No comment means you don't care.

 

by: juliancrawfordPosted on 2004-01-17 at 21:20:36ID: 10139301

No comment has been added lately, so it's time to clean up this TA.
I will leave the following recommendation for this question in the Cleanup topic area:

Accept: SMack {http:#8653285}

Please leave any comments here within the next seven days.
PLEASE DO NOT ACCEPT THIS COMMENT AS AN ANSWER!

Julian Crawford
EE Cleanup Volunteer

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...