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Very slow WinXP Pro logon to W2K domain -=- please expound!

Asked by: ballylama

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"Consider small office network with W2K domain.  Recently upgraded all office PCs from Win98 to WinXP Pro SP1.  Logon process and shared folders access is extremely slow.  Logon takes up to two minutes.  All users keep losing access to shared folders.  It used to work better (and faster!) with Win98.  Any ideas how to fix this situation?  Thanks in advance!"

The answer was:
make sure you have the correct DNS entry on the XP box, and also the correct dns suffix for self-registration in ddns...

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This could be some quick easy points for someone, if you could please explain what the "correct DNS entry" would be.  I have correct DNS for our internet, W2K server box.... not sure if that is correct.  I am guessing I need to put the ip of the xp machine.

Also, how do you correct DNS suffix for self-registration in ddns??

Thanks!

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2004-02-02 at 10:03:50ID20870656
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Answers

 

by: PeteLongPosted on 2004-02-02 at 10:04:57ID: 10254337

Slow Win XP on Network

The FIRST thing to check Is the PC has Valid DNS server in its Connection Properties (Under TCP/IP) and the correct DNS suffix. You might want to try Adding Your Domain Controllers IP address in as the secondary DNS server.

*****Slow Network Operation*****

Ensure You have Service Pack 1 Which fixed a bug for slow network browsing see
http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0424micropulls.html

By default Windows XP searches for Network Shares and Printers to disable this follow this advice
http://is-it-true.org/nt/xp/atips/atips23.shtml

If your connecting to a W2K Server it will autodiconnect Idle LAN connections after 15 Mins to disable this follow this for advice
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/194/

The problem might be n the local machine Speed up XP by disabling indexing
http://www.activewin.com/winxp/tips/basic/21.shtml

Slow copying Files from XP in a Domain Enviroment? See
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169

Slow Network Performance Occurs If You Copy Files to a Windows 2000 Domain Controller
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098

*****Slow Startup*****

Correcting System Hang at Startup

If your system hangs about 2 or 3 minutes at startup, where you can't access the Start button or the Taskbar, it may be due to one specific service (Background Intelligent Transfer) running in the background.

1. Click on Start/Run, type 'msconfig', then click 'OK'.
2. Go to the 'Services' tab, find the 'Background Intelligent Transfer' service, disable it, apply the changes & reboot.

How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310353

Slow logon to domain in XP Pro
http://www.windowsxpatoz.com/cgi-bin/performance/index.cgi?answer=1036283899&id=1036282433


Fast Boot / Fast Resume Design
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/platform/performance/fastboot/default.mspx
BootVis.exe Tool
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/platform/performance/fastboot/bootvis.mspx

Is the machine slow logging into the a Domain? See
http://www.windowsxpatoz.com/cgi-bin/performance/index.cgi?answer=1036283899&id=1036282433

 

by: ballylamaPosted on 2004-02-02 at 10:24:36ID: 10254508

wow... loving notepad are we?

Thanks for the links, I will try looking around.

Could you please clarify this part of the question for me though?

  == "how do you correct DNS suffix for self-registration in ddns??"

Thanks!

 

by: PeteLongPosted on 2004-02-02 at 10:33:03ID: 10254590

hehehe its in the client setting on DNS ie

xp computerrname is  mypc
domain name is mycompany.com

dns suffix is mydomain.com
dns name is mypc.mydomain.com (or mypc@mydomain.com)

Pete

 

by: garfieldcooperPosted on 2004-02-02 at 10:46:36ID: 10254716

I had this problem

Pointing the XP machines to the internal DNS server DID solve it.  They logon in a snap now

 

by: ballylamaPosted on 2004-02-02 at 10:48:36ID: 10254729

"internal DNS server"

the xp machine?

I did that, now there is primary, secondary DNS for internet.... then one for the server, and the xp box... now a grand total of 4... didn't fix it.

 

by: garfieldcooperPosted on 2004-02-02 at 11:08:08ID: 10254909

hmm ok sorry maybe i didnt read carefully enough

I have a server and 4 XP machines

The server uses the ISP dns servers which i imput manually lets say 64.56.xxx.xxx

The Xp machines use the Servers IP as the DNS server. The servers ip address is 192.168.x .x

 

by: ballylamaPosted on 2004-02-02 at 11:14:25ID: 10254967

ahhh....

okay.... I have a router doing dhcp for me.  my server does do DNS... I may have it configured wrong.  It was never an issue in XP.... and I do not get many error messages reguarding DNS on my server.... I am thinking this could be the cause.

 hoping this is going in the right direction!

any ideas?

Thanks!

 

by: dancorcalPosted on 2004-02-02 at 13:32:02ID: 10256035

You should only need two DNS Addresses on the XP machines. Actually in your case 1 dns address. First make sure you have DNS installed on the server.  You should have dsn pointed to the LAN address of the Server on the XP machines. The server should then perform DNS resolution for internet addresses for the workstations.

On the server go to start, programs, administrative tools, DNS. Once the DNS snap in is open you should see the Server listed there by name, right click on the server name and go to properties. Click the forwarders tab and enter two DNS server address that you should have received from your ISP. These DNS servers are external to your network. If you don't know this information, just make sure on the root hints tab that servers are listed.

Now how this should work is, the Server will have all the local IP and host name info for your workstations and they should be able to log on very fast, if they need DNS for a web site, they will look to the server, and the server will find the web ip and hand it down to the workstation. Give this a try.

Hope this helps

 

by: ballylamaPosted on 2004-02-02 at 13:37:52ID: 10256088

I think we are getting warm dancorcal!

My forwarders tab says it is not available because this is a root server?????

Hmmm... not sure what to do about that.

What should be in "forward lookup zones" and "reverse lookup zones" ... or should that not be changed?

Thanks!


btw... at this time I have tried all the links the first fella gave me... to no avail... I am thinking the direction we are in now will resolve this!!!

 

by: dancorcalPosted on 2004-02-02 at 13:41:32ID: 10256128

Depends, is this server running Active Directory (basically is it the Domain Controller for your network?)

 

by: ballylamaPosted on 2004-02-02 at 13:46:10ID: 10256174

Yes it is.

I had some trouble setting up the DNS... and forgot about it for a year or so... now with XP it is forcing me to pay attention to it.  DNS has been fine for internet connection.  Computers have been able to ping eachother... but reverse lookup has never worked.... I know I got the DNS messed up and that is why that doesn't work.  

I just now added the ISP DNS servers to the "interfaces" tab... have not checked to see if that makes a difference.  In the "interfaces" tab, I now have the DC's IP, and the ISP's DNS servers.  

A while back I was getting a lot of errors from DNS, they were resolved when I put the IP of the DC in this tab....

Hopefully this all answers your questions.... I hope we can get this working!

 

by: dancorcalPosted on 2004-02-02 at 13:47:11ID: 10256182

If this is your root of your 2000 forest, then you probably have two zones in the forward lookup area. One will be .. and the other will be your domain's name. Delete the .. zone from the forward lookup zones. Then re start the DNS service in the services control panel (let me know if you need help finding that) then go back into DNS and see if the forwarders tab is available.

 

by: dancorcalPosted on 2004-02-02 at 14:01:18ID: 10256324

BTW this in your last post:

 "just now added the ISP DNS servers to the "interfaces" tab... have not checked to see if that makes a difference.  In the "interfaces" tab, I now have the DC's IP, and the ISP's DNS servers."

This should not be your ISP's DNS servers. This should be the local ip address of the server.  

 

by: ballylamaPosted on 2004-02-02 at 14:02:26ID: 10256329

YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks... XP logged  in about 5 seconds!!!!!

One follow up question.... what should the "reverse lookup zones" folder look like?  what should be in there?

Thanks a million!

 

by: dancorcalPosted on 2004-02-02 at 14:12:36ID: 10256404

To create you reverse lookup zone for your network all you need to know is your network ID. If your network is a typical 192.168.0.x, you reverse lookup would look like 192.168.0.x subnet in the reverse lookup zone area. You don't actually need a reverse lookup zone, but if you want simpley delete whatever is there, then right click the reverse lookup container and say new zone. The wizard will open, then select primary zone from the options, then enter your network ID, then finish. Your network ID depends on your subnet mask if you use 255.255.255.0 as your subnet mask then your network id would be the first three of you IP address like 192.168.0 or 192.168.1. If you are using a different ip scheme that what I listed, let me know.

Hope this helps,

 

by: ballylamaPosted on 2004-02-02 at 14:14:07ID: 10256418

that did it... thank you!

Just posted another question... probably another easy 500 points for ya!

Thanks again!

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