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Using a Linksys WRT54GS Wireless Router as just an Access Point

Asked by: LobbDoggy

I'm wondering if there is any way to just use this router as just an access point instead of it doing any routiing.  We want wireless conectivity but have a much better router in place already and wish to not have to buy just an Access Point.  Is it possible?

This is the router with the Speed Booster feature from Linksys built in.

Thanks

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Answers

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2005-01-27 at 08:48:07ID: 13154189

should be able to, if both support WDS (wireless distributed system) the linksys does, don't know about the other

 

by: holger12345Posted on 2005-01-27 at 08:57:59ID: 13154334

Why should it have WDS? I think it's for better management, right?

If you want it for homenetwork, the wireless router does nothing at all, just accept a connection ... problem could be, if you want the wireless do DHCP and your linksys too ... IMHO you have to set some static information that isn't useful in a company network

Holger

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2005-01-27 at 09:03:42ID: 13154416

>>Why should it have WDS? I think it's for better management, right?
no, it's to allow it to act as an access point (a range extender if you will)

WDS (wireless distribution service) allows access points to bridge back to another access point in a pre arranged configuration. It is a cheap, easy to use method if you are creating a very small network. The one drawback is that your access point will be cutting it's available bandwidth in half, as you will be using the same bandwidth for backhaul as for distribution

 

by: holger12345Posted on 2005-01-27 at 09:51:50ID: 13154967

Well ok.. understood - i did setup a range extender yet ...

I understood the question of LobbDoggy in another way:
- he has a pretty good router that has no(!) wireless function
- he got a cheap wireless router as addon from somewhere and wants to integrate it in his homenet just as an AP

in this szenario, the linksys-router doesn't provide any WDS-information for a whatsoever wireless router... so WDS couldn't be used, right?
but then you can just set it up like i proposed as a router, where you don't use the WLAN port - only the LAN switch and the wireless access is used... should work ...

regards Holger

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2005-01-27 at 09:55:37ID: 13154998

Hmmm, I read it they have a wireless (good one, and want to use the cheap one as an extender)
two different takes on the same question LOL
yes, if it's just a wired router, then they don't need WDS

 

by: chefred112Posted on 2005-01-27 at 13:35:34ID: 13157401

...to use it as an AP, assign it a static ip address as per your internal network.  disable the dhcp function.  plug your ethernet cable into one of the ethernet ports (do not plug anything in the Wan port).  Configure your wireless with WEP or WPA (or not)...this basically makes it a hub on your network...

 

by: holger12345Posted on 2005-01-27 at 14:19:28ID: 13157848

I thought of the wireless with DHCP, as moreoften someone who comes to visit me brings in a wireless notebook rather than a whole PC with cable... so the DHCP configuration will be better with the wireless...

 

by: WhitePhantomPosted on 2005-01-27 at 14:27:27ID: 13157924

Most of this was already touched on, but here's how I would do it.

1. Run a straight-thru ethernet cable from your good router/switch to one of the LAN ports on your Linksys wireless router, NOT the WAN port
2. Disable DHCP in the wireless router
3. If desired, setup WEP or WPA for security

This will make it so anybody who connects wirelessly to the Linksys will be forwarded on to your good router, which I assume provides IP addresses over DHCP.

 

by: chefred112Posted on 2005-01-27 at 14:29:06ID: 13157936

...do you have a dhcp server on your existing network ( I was under the impression that you did), if so, that will also give ip's to wireless nodes...

 

by: chefred112Posted on 2005-01-27 at 14:32:23ID: 13157971

...I believe whitephantom said the exact same thing i posted earlier...

 

by: LobbDoggyPosted on 2005-01-27 at 14:43:00ID: 13158063

Yes our previous router has a DHCP server built in and it is just for a home network.  What we are wanting is to have all machines on the same subnet.

 

by: holger12345Posted on 2005-01-27 at 14:48:55ID: 13158096

>>if so, that will also give ip's to wireless nodes...
If the wireless node doesn't need to dhcp, then just disable dhcp at the wireless and setup the WAP/WEP security (i'd prefer WAP - seen too much quick WEP crackers, WAP seems to be a little bit more difficult)

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2005-01-27 at 15:35:56ID: 13158449

OK, so everyone's on the same page, is the "good" router strictly a wired router, and you want to add the linksys to give it wireless access also?

 

by: LobbDoggyPosted on 2005-01-27 at 19:18:10ID: 13159768

The router that I want to use is wired.   Then we want to use the wireless to have another machine on the same network that is in another room and would rather not use cables.

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2005-01-27 at 19:25:14ID: 13159801

OK, then the above advice should work

Comment from chefred112
Date: 01/27/2005 04:35PM EST
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...to use it as an AP, assign it a static ip address as per your internal network.  disable the dhcp function.  plug your ethernet cable into one of the ethernet ports (do not plug anything in the Wan port).  Configure your wireless with WEP or WPA (or not)...this basically makes it a hub on your network...
points should go to chefred

 

by: holger12345Posted on 2005-01-28 at 01:07:37ID: 13161150

@steve: you like to overlook me ;?) *gg* .. just friends, ok ...
@Lobb: thx 4 points

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2005-01-28 at 03:12:44ID: 13162046

LOL, I looked, and didn't see where you said anything about shutting off dhcp :-)

 

by: holger12345Posted on 2005-01-28 at 03:17:38ID: 13162063

Yeah - i didn't say "shut off", i said: "problem .. if .. wireless do DHCP and .. linksys too .. you have to set some static information ..."
Sometimes i talk too much between the lines ;-)

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2005-01-28 at 03:31:33ID: 13162147

hehe I would have split them, but not my question :-)

 

by: chefred112Posted on 2005-01-28 at 07:57:28ID: 13164293

...thanks for the support steven...it's all good...

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