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Difference between routing protocol and routable protocol

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Hi everybody,

I want to know what is difference between routing protocol and routable protocol.

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Answers

 

by: JonShPosted on 2005-01-31 at 09:28:54ID: 13184575

A routing protocol is a protocol that is used between routers, to identify paths to other networks. Some routing protocols are RIP, OSPF, BGP, EIGRP.

A routable protocol is a protocol or suite of protocols that understands multiple networks and expects to cross routewrs from one network to another.  TCP/IP, IPX/SPX are routable protocols.  Netbeui is not.

does this help?

 

by: PeteLongPosted on 2005-01-31 at 09:44:25ID: 13184755

ahh the ting and ted story LOL

The Story of Ted and Ting
NOTE This somewhat silly story is the result of the Cisco World Wide Training division’s proctors for
the instructor certification process, who emphasize that the instructors should be creative in the
use of tools to help students remember important details. After I tried this story during
certification, it was propagated by other instructors. I am curious—if you have heard this story
or a variation, please let me know when you heard it and from whom (wendell@lacidar.com).
Ted and Ting both work for the same company at a facility in Snellville, Georgia. They work in
the same department; their job is to make lots of widgets. (Widgets are imaginary products; the
term widget is used in the United States often to represent a product when the actual product is
not the topic of discussion.)
Ted worked quickly and was a hard worker. In fact, because he was a very intense person, Ted
tended to make more widgets than anyone else in Snellville, including Ting. Ted also liked to
have everything he needed instantly available when and where he wanted it so that he could
make the widgets more quickly.
Ting, on the other hand, also worked very hard but was much more of a planner. He tended to
think first and then act. Ting planned very well and had all supplies well stocked, including all
the instructions needed to make the different kinds of widgets. In fact, all the information about
how to build each type of widget was on a table by his door. He had a problem with the table
getting “reallocated” (that is, stolen), so he applied a nonremovable label with the words
“Ting’s Table” to the surface so that he could find the table in case someone stole it.
It turns out that Ted’s productivity was partly a result of sitting next to Ting. In fact, Ted often
was ready to make the next widget but needed something, such as the instruction sheet for a
particular unique widget. By swinging into Ting’s office, Ted could be back at it in just a few
seconds. In fact, part of the reason Ting kept the instruction sheets on Ting’s Table by the door
was that he was tired of Ted always interrupting him looking for something.
Well, Ted got lots of bonuses for being the most productive worker, and Ting did not. Being fair,
though, Ted realized that he would not be as successful without Ting, so Ted shared his bonuses
with Ting. (Hey, it’s an imaginary story!)
Then one day the president decided to franchise the company because it was the best widgetmaking
company in the world. The president, Dr. Rou (pronounced like the word “ouch”),
decided to create a manual to be used by all the franchisees to build their business. So, Dr. Rou
went to the most productive widget maker, Ted, and asked him what he did every day. Along
the way, Dr. Rou noticed that Ted went next door a lot. So, being the bright guy that he was, Dr.
Rou visited Ting next and asked him what he did.
OSI Network Layer Functions 123
The next day Dr. Rou emerged with the franchise manual. Being an ex–computer networking
professional, he had called the manual “Protocols for Making Widgets.” One part of the
protocol defined how Ted made widgets very quickly. Another part described how Ting kept
everything needed by Ted at arm’s length, including all the instructions that Ted needed. It even
mentioned Ting’s Table as the place to store the instruction sheets. To give credit where credit
was due—but not too much credit—the names of these protocols were as follows:
• The “Rou-Ted Protocol”—How to make widgets really quickly
• The “Rou-Ting Protocol”—How to plan and collect information so that the other guy
can make widgets fast
• The “Rou-Ting Table”—The place to store your widget-making instruction sheets
Similarly, with networking, the routed protocol is the one being routed, such as IP, IPX, OSI,
DECnet, and so forth. The routing protocol is the one preparing the information needed to
perform the routing process quickly, such as RIP, IGRP, OSPF, NLSP, and so forth. The routing
table is where the information needed to perform routing is held, as built by the routing protocol
and used by the routing process to forward the packets of the routed protocol.
That’s all just to distinguish among the terms routed protocol, routing protocol, and
routing table.

 

by: omegabetaPosted on 2005-01-31 at 09:51:06ID: 13184822


OK. Can you tell me why TCP split the messages into packets that have variable length? The length is established by what ?

 

by: PeteLongPosted on 2005-01-31 at 09:58:21ID: 13184888

The lenth is decided during the "Handshake"

 

by: PeteLongPosted on 2005-01-31 at 09:59:57ID: 13184902

TCP (Transmission Control Protocol)
A set of rules that enables a broad spectrum of different kinds of computers to establish a connection and exchange streams of data. TCP guarantees delivery of data and also guarantees that packets will be delivered in the same order in which they were sent, so it is considered "reliable." Most long-haul traffic on the Internet uses TCP.
TCP handshake
A three-step process computers go through when negotiating a connection with one another. Simplistically described, in a normal TCP handshake:
1. Computer A sends a SYN packet (for "synchronize");
2. Computer B acknowledges the connection attempt and sends back its own SYN packet (thus, a SYN/ACK packet), and
3. Computer A acknowledges Computer B's response.
Once both computers are synchronized and acknowledged, they can begin passing data back and forth

TCP functions by opening connections to a remote host and is thus connection-oriented. TCP maintains status information regarding the connections it makes and is therefore a reliable protocol. A TCP connection is identified by the IP addresses and virtual port numbers used by both ends. During communication, additional numbers are used to keep track of the order or sequence number which indicates what order the segments of data should be reassembled. Finally, a maximum transmission size is constantly being negotiated via a fallback mechanism called windowing. The combination of port numbers, sequence numbers and window sizes constitutes a connection, or pipe.

To establish a connection, TCP uses the three-way handshake (SYN-SYN-ACK). This three way handshake will only be completed in one direction even if both sides initialize connections at the same time.

http://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/internet/tcp/connections.html

 

by: harbor235Posted on 2005-01-31 at 10:15:21ID: 13185054

Pete, you messed up the three handshake a bit

SYN                      SENT BY SYSTEM WANTING TO SET UP A CONNECTION
SYN-ACK               SENT BY SYSTEM CONFIRMING REQUEST, AND ALSO SENDS A SYN FOR EST A BI-DIRECTIONAL CONN
ACK                      ORIGINAL SYSTEM CONFIRMS TWO WAY CONNECTION


HARBOR235

 

by: harbor235Posted on 2005-01-31 at 10:15:58ID: 13185057

I forgot my smiley face   ;}


harbor235

 

by: harbor235Posted on 2005-01-31 at 10:17:21ID: 13185073

Oops, guess I should read the entire post,

retract button

retract button


sorry, pete  ;}

harbor235

 

by: PeteLongPosted on 2005-01-31 at 10:21:40ID: 13185108

:p

 

by: omegabetaPosted on 2005-01-31 at 11:18:40ID: 13185644

OK.  Why at nbtstat -a computer_name I get something like this:

computer_name <00> UNIQUE Registred
computer_name <20> UNIQUE Registred
group_name      <00> GROUP  Registred
group_name      <1E> GROUP  Registred

What's the meaning of <20> , <1E> or UNIQUE ?

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