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Cable Modem – (would like) DMZ----Cisco Router 871-----Cisco Pix 506e-----Cisco 3750—Server with 2 NIC’s


I need help with integrating this Cisco router with the currently existing Pix and networked LAN. The goal is set up a DMZ with DNS. I am not quite sure what direction to take, not sure if using VLAN’S from the router on down to the switch where the server is connected.  My Server has two NIC’s the first NIC will be pointed to an internal DNS,  the other NIC would point to the DMZ with an external DNS for external name resolution. I have looked on the Cisco website for the references  but I don’t see anything that I can use.


Ohh and P.S

Please have some patients a gentlemen was helping me setup my switch and got annoyed with me, not his fault though I know it must be hard trying to solves problems via email. SO let have fun.

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2006-02-23 at 17:11:46ID21749651
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Answers

 

by: mburdickPosted on 2006-02-23 at 17:23:51ID: 16035121

The PIX 506e can support a quad port NIC or a single 100Mb NIC to give you more than two interfaces. This would give you the DMZ area that you are looking to create.

Once the DMZ exists, you can plug your server(s) in to it and build the necessary rules in the PIX to separate the outside, the DMZ, and inside all from one another.

 

by: saxhPosted on 2006-02-23 at 17:59:58ID: 16035310

Well I think the 506E support 2 physical 2 virtual the 2 virtual are Vlan interfaces. The issues at hand is to route traffic from the routers Vlan through to the pix putting a DDNS on the DMZ I mean I am sure you can do it through access lists and routing but I was thinking that 802.11q tagging from the router on down would be the ideal situation

 

by: mburdickPosted on 2006-02-23 at 18:54:48ID: 16035585

PIX firewalls support physical interfaces. Any "virtual" addressing would be for VPN connections, and have nothing to do with VLAN's. You need to have more than two physical interfaces in the firewall to accomplish what you are looking to do.

 

by: saxhPosted on 2006-02-23 at 21:14:41ID: 16036147

Other things like DMZ can be used with virtual interfaces or “Vlan’s ” and in particular the 506e series version 6.35 supports to physical interfaces and two virtual interfaces which can be setup for DMZ creating a 3 virtual interface bind to a physical interface  here you will see what I mean http://www.experts-exchange.com/Security/Q_21223914.html?query=vlan+506e&clearTAFilter=true

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Security/Firewalls/Q_21478055.html?query=vlan+506e&clearTAFilter=true

 

by: mburdickPosted on 2006-02-24 at 04:33:42ID: 16037777

As a security professional, I advise against this setup. Overloading the PIX can put it into a bypass mode that leaves your systems exposed. I don't do it this way - EVER. But, since you already have the info you need, and seem to insist on doing it this way, I wish you well.

 

by: saxhPosted on 2006-02-24 at 12:33:05ID: 16042009

I did not say I was going to set up like that.  I was just saying that can be done.  My true goalis to set up a forward facing DNS on the
DMZ that can resolve external names and host web servers I just want to keep the lands segment I'm not sure if and to access list from the router through the firewall down to switch with a server is connected is a solution.  Because it's a dynamic IP I want to make sure that all the information can be updated externally and that the transitional update is smooth.  So that's west of questions sci-fi came off the wrong way I'm still new to the game I love it though but I'm not quite sure what direction.  Note that all advice given is greatly appreciated.

 

by: blackwsbPosted on 2006-03-12 at 09:26:04ID: 16168146

Mburdick's ideas are right on for the best way to do what you want.  A cheaper solution would be to just use the 871 as your dmz (if it doesn't have the advanced features, you had better be good at cisco configs).  You could then put upto 3 of your dmz equipment on the ports of the 871 (4th used for the uplink to the PIX - if you need more than 3 you could use the wireless, but lock it down well or disable it).  Since all of the devices already use ethernet, I would probably continue to use just that protocol.  Personally I would not use VLans, etc. because of the extra loads they would cause on these small devices (ie Mburdicks comments on overloading the PIX and/or the 871 are absolutely correct).  The PIX will automatically allow you to access the external DNS (you would have to punch one hole in the PIXs firewall if you needed 2 way communication between the internal and external DNSs) or - If you were really good with your DNS server configs ie absolutely able to control the OSes to not route between 2 NICs - you could put 2 NICs in both the external and the internal DNS servers. (but once again if you are not good at locking the NICs down, you would create alternate unsecure routes and possible routing loops).

 

by: saxhPosted on 2006-03-13 at 18:14:37ID: 16180201

I'm pleasantly surprised to see that someone actually took interest in my network issue to bring everyone up to speed I decided to connect to the external DMZ and bypassed the firewall and connected it directly into the router.  I worked with Cisco to make sure that my dynamic DNS settings were correct.  Then I assigned the DMZ interface and IP address of 172.X.X.X and gave the external in the face on the server and IP address in this range.  My next dilemma is, should I set up my internal DNS server to look at the external DNS server on the DMZ for name resolution as his DNS server will sit on the DMZ and will be in charge of name resolution for this particular zone.  Can you give me any examples in reference to locking down the network interface card.  It would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you

 

by: blackwsbPosted on 2006-03-20 at 09:05:15ID: 16237340

This will totally depend on the operating system of the DNS server.

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