Question

gigabit

Asked by: ammadeyy

i have a gigabit switch as follows


server>>>>>>>>>> switch1 >>>>>>>>>>switch 2 >>>>>>>>>>switch 3
                                 (in) (out)                     (in) (out)                      (in) (out)


from server to switch 1 read as gigabit (meaning the led yellow)

from switch 1 to switch 2 read also gigabit

but from switch 2 (out) to switch 3 read as 100mbps (orange)

at first when i connect switch 2 (out) to switch 3 shows yellow color
but the led goes offline and turn on with orange color

wat might be the problem

will it be length problem or too many hop counts?

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2006-03-22 at 14:05:06ID21784900
Topic

Miscellaneous Networking

Participating Experts
7
Points
500
Comments
23

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. Gigabit crossover pinout
    Does anyone know the pinout of a cat 5 crossover cable for gigabit ethernet connector? vm
  2. Gigabit
    Is all I need to upgade my LAN to gigabit speed is a gigabit switch, Cat6 and gigabit NIC's? Would my old 10/100 router be a bottle-neck over my LAN? All computers are hooked to the switch, then there's 1 cable to the router. My router handles all internet and DHCP. Will my o...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: rfr1tzPosted on 2006-03-22 at 14:19:38ID: 16262853

Are these cicso switches.

Do a "show interfaces" command. The output looks like this:

Ethernet 0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is MCI Ethernet, address is 0000.0c00.750c (bia 0000.0c00.750c)
  Internet address is 131.108.28.8, subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 100000 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255
                                 ^^^^
                              Here's the configured bandwidth. Should be bigger for your switches


Are those the only connections to these switches? Sounds like STP may be blocking the port. Time how long it takes to turn orange. Is it 30+/- 1 seconds?

 

by: ammadeyyPosted on 2006-03-22 at 14:22:50ID: 16262884

the server switch is HP 2626 manage switch
all others are unmanaged netgear switches

yes it turns to orange like within 30 seconds

 

by: rfr1tzPosted on 2006-03-22 at 14:35:44ID: 16262994

Actually time it with a watch. Is it - 30+/- 1?

If it is 30 +/-1, this could be normal operation (I'm assuming the cisco STP defaults). But there would have to be more cables than you have drawn on the picture. You would have to have some switching loops. Two cables between switch 2 and 3 would cause this "symptom" - but it's not really a symptom, but rather normal STP operation.

 

by: rfr1tzPosted on 2006-03-22 at 14:36:04ID: 16262997

Actually time it with a watch. Is it - 30+/- 1?

If it is 30 +/-1, this could be normal operation (I'm assuming the cisco STP defaults). But there would have to be more cables than you have drawn on the picture. You would have to have some switching loops. Two cables between switch 2 and 3 would cause this "symptom" - but it's not really a symptom, but rather normal STP operation.

 

by: IPKON_NetworksPosted on 2006-03-22 at 15:29:15ID: 16263475

You don't say that you actually have a problem? If you were to connect a PC into switch 3, you would only get 100MBs traffic to the server (lowest link speed). The link speed would show this on the PC (IPCONFIG /ALL) and a route map from either end would show this also.

One thing to check is that the link speeds and duplexing are all in sync. If they are all set to Auto Negotiate (which should be fine) then they may not negotiate correctly due to HP and Netgear differences. Try forcing them to 1000-full duplex (or 100-full duplex).

If you still have problems (what ever they are) then set all speeds to the lowest of 10-half duplex and see if they work OK then.

Hope this helps
Barny
IPKON Networks Ltd

 

by: CajunBillPosted on 2006-03-22 at 15:50:38ID: 16263681

What are the model numbers of switch 2 and switch 3?
CB

 

by: ammadeyyPosted on 2006-03-22 at 15:56:55ID: 16263735

all the switches are gigabit

so switch to switch it should be gigabit
but switch 2 to switch 3 shows as 100mbps

switch 2 is netgear 5 port, switch 3 is netgear 8port

 

by: ammadeyyPosted on 2006-03-22 at 15:58:32ID: 16263743

how can i check link speeds and duplexing are all in sync??

 

by: CajunBillPosted on 2006-03-22 at 17:40:40ID: 16264523

I'd still like to know the model numbers of switch 2 and switch 3.

Here's something else to try:
swap the cables between switch 1 and 2, and switch 2 and 3.
Does the problem move to the switch 1 - 2 connection?
CB

 

by: SunBowPosted on 2006-03-22 at 17:54:09ID: 16264640

possibly the matching of duplex is inconsistent. But I like the idea of swapping cables, sometimes it is the simple things that we take for granted all too often

 

by: CajunBillPosted on 2006-03-22 at 18:34:31ID: 16264873

The small netgear switches do not allow setting duplex and other parameters.  These are not enterprise switches - they are SOHO equipment.  They are not managed switches.
So you cannot set and you cannot check the duplex and link speed, other than by looking at the indicator lights.

Swap the cables and let us know how it turns out.
CB

 

by: stevew1Posted on 2006-03-22 at 18:47:59ID: 16264962

Try putting switch 3 in switch 2's place. See if switch 3 connects to switch 1 at gigabit speed. Since these are unmanaged switches there are no config options. I would be surprised if switch 3 operates at gig speed connected to switch 1. It sounds like switch 3 is either not gigabit or is bad and will not operate at gigabit speed

 

by: ammadeyyPosted on 2006-03-22 at 23:28:37ID: 16266441

i connect with short cable it doest detect as gigabit, wat might be the problem

 

by: CajunBillPosted on 2006-03-23 at 06:39:37ID: 16269505

The problem is likely that the cable is an old Cat-5 cable, you need a newer cable, of type Cat-6.
CB

 

by: ammadeyyPosted on 2006-03-23 at 07:08:24ID: 16269867

i change the switch 3 to HP 2626 managed switch, now it works fine
wat would be the problem with netgear switch

 

by: j0s3phPosted on 2006-03-23 at 08:26:19ID: 16270919

Are you using Cat5 on the 3rd Switch as opposed to Cat5e.  I have accidentally done this in the past and if you do so, when you ping half the packets go through and half time out.  Just make sure that cable is Cat5e.  Not sure if this will help.

 

by: ammadeyyPosted on 2006-03-23 at 09:00:00ID: 16271357

my whole network is cat5 jell filled black color outdoor cable

 

by: CajunBillPosted on 2006-03-23 at 12:45:07ID: 16274170

ammadeyy, one more time, please post the model numbers of the netgear switches!

I know you have said they are gigabit switches, but why are you reluctant to post the model numbers?

After all, if you want to solve this, we who are helping need information from you.
CB

 

by: ammadeyyPosted on 2006-03-23 at 13:11:16ID: 16274508

switch 2 is netgear GS605
switch 3 is netgear GS608

i replace switch 3 with HP 2626 it works fine

i tested switch 3 with short cable it works fine, so i believe there is no problem with switch

 

by: CajunBillPosted on 2006-03-23 at 14:35:04ID: 16275529

ammadeyy,
you have twice mentioned something you call a "short cable".  Also, you mention that it is "jell filled black color outdoor cable".  But the length and color is not a key factor. What is key is what I mentioned a few hours ago, that
j0s3ph repeated two hours later: you need to make sure the cables are NOT cat-5 cables but are instead at least cat-5e, and better yet, cat-6.
This designation is often printed on the cable itself (although it can be hard to read), and will defintely be on the packaging that the cable came in.
Please check this and let us know.
CB

 

by: atomicfire001Posted on 2006-03-28 at 20:16:47ID: 16317931

Make sure ALL cables connecting gigabit equiptment are at least cat-6 and have ALL 4 PAIRS wired correctly. Gigabit actually uses all 4 pairs of strands in the cables.

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...