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NEtwork on going problems andheadaches. To solve the network connection problems

Asked by: PawloA

All  6 Computers use XP pro.
I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR and I am fed up with all these network problems that crop up for no reason. Let me lay out the current network problem.
I have 6 Computers all on my network.
Let's call them Computer A,B,C,D,E and F
ALL Computer's were recently reformatted and working fine
From Computer A I could read B,C,D,E and F and vice versa.
Then for no reason I get the following problem.
From computer's A perspective. I cannot read Computer B
I get the \\ComputerB is not accessible. You might not have permission yada yada yada.... The network path was not found.
other computers I read fine

From Computer B's perspective I get the following:
MSHOME is not accessible. You might not have permission more yada yada yada.... The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.
I cannot read any computer at all. A few minutes earlier I was reading everything.

From Computer C's perpective I get the following:
MSHOME is not accessible. You might not have permission yada yada yada.... The network path was not found.

So to sum it up
Computer A can talk to B but not C
Computer B can't access the network
Computer C can't access the network
Computer D,E and F are just like Computer A so I left them out

What I did then:
I reset the Router by turning it off.
I followed the sequence to get the network up via the microsoft help page.
      1. Fix the BeOS to be enabled always
      2. Restart the Computer Browser Service
      3. Checked all wires and wireless systems and all are ok as the all communicate with the internet.
                 4. Shareing is allowed on all.

I should be able to read the shared files at least......AT LEAST.....

And still nothing. I am sure others have the same problem. I just want this solved once and for all. Thanks for reading this.

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Answers

 

by: ajayprkPosted on 2007-01-03 at 02:29:05ID: 18234055

run the command "net share" on a command prompt on computer B
You should see atleast IPC$, ADMIN$ and C$
If any 1 of these are missing then its a Virus

Run the command ipconfig /all
Do you see the Netbios over tcp/ip as disabled in the result. I am aware that you have already enabled it but we need to check on the output of ipconfig /all

On computer B, click on start->run and type \\B (B is the computer name)
Can this machine see its own shares

Open the Services console
Check the status of following services
Server
Workstation
Tcp/ip Netbios helper

Can the computer B ping other machines u name and IP?
Can the computer B go out on Internet?

Start computer B in safe mode with networking and then try to access the shares.

Please provide me with answers to the above questions. I'm going to sleep now and would check for your post around 3 PM CST.

If possible download and install the support tools for your OS from downloads.microsoft.com
From the command prompt of support tools run the command "netdiag /fix" and after that "netdiag /v > net.txt"
Paste the contents of net.txt file here for us to see.

Thanks
AJ

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-01-03 at 03:17:44ID: 18234213

Hi PawloA,
With such a small network, I'd recommend using NetBeui.  It's a small, fast, and easily configurable protocol that will allow PC to PC communication on a single subnet.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301041 details how to install it - afterwards, your network woes should be a thing of the past.

Good luck!
~sirbounty

 

by: jvuzPosted on 2007-01-03 at 03:23:35ID: 18234228

How are the ip addressses?

 

by: Karma_AUPosted on 2007-01-03 at 03:52:00ID: 18234336

We see this issue in networks which are running in workgroup's and it is caused by the lack of a server dns solution.

Since all the computers are XP, no one system will be the master browser on the network (any server OS will always be the master browswer).

An example.

On Monday, computer A is first online so it will be the master browser for that day so on that day everyone can talk to computer A and any computer that computer A knows about.

On Tuesday compter C may be turned on first so for that day so on that day everyone can talk to computer C and any computer that computer C knows about.

There is no easy fix, netbeui will help but will still have the odd gremlin in the system. As soon as a server OS is placed in the network and it controls DNS all your problems will be solved.

MS has an article on master browser but you may not not really helpful english. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/188001

 

by: riteheerPosted on 2007-01-03 at 04:33:21ID: 18234532

I've not done this, but hoping one of the larger network wizards will clear this up for 'you' or 'me' or whatever. In a small network like this, wouldn't setting static ip's and listing all the computer names in a host file and copying to each system remedy something like the problem they are having?
Jappo

 

by: kadadi_vPosted on 2007-01-03 at 06:02:35ID: 18235028

As per my point of view for small office network use the static IP's configuration so we know which machine having the problem immediately. Then put the Static ip's like 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.11 for your 6 pc;s then subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and gateway =192.168.0.1 ( router local address ) and for DNS address use the ISP primary & alternate DNS addresses. Reconfigure the workgroup network configuration ( Right CLick to My network Plcaes > small office network) give the workgroup name ( default = MSHOME) then select the file and printer sharing option .Use this procedure on all 6 pc's and then check the workgroup pc can accessible and disabled the xp sp2 firewalls and also uninstall the internet security / firewall softwares. check the all pc's can ping each other using Ips or computer names.

Also check the guest accoun is enabled in managmemet console ( users ) ..disbaled that guest account .And also check the router settings for firewall options or dhcp server ip range or put ther ip rnage like 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.55..

Also check this expert's source : http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Q_21256617.html

Good Luck

Vijay Kadadi

 

by: PawloAPosted on 2007-01-03 at 12:58:57ID: 18238853

>>run the command "net share" on a command prompt on computer B<<
>>You should see atleast IPC$, ADMIN$ and C$<<
>>If any 1 of these are missing then its a Virus<<

  I tested A,B,C and D and all show IPC$ = remote PC,ADMIN$=Remote Admin,C$=Default Share

  Just to note that all host names appear in small letters except Computer B which is all in capital letters.
  Does that matter? If so can it be changed?

>>Run the command ipconfig /all<<
>>Do you see the Netbios over tcp/ip as disabled in the result. I am aware that you have already enabled it<<
>>but we need to check on the output of ipconfig /all<<


>>On computer B, click on start->run and type \\B (B is the computer name)<<
>>Can this machine see its own shares<<

  Each computer can see its own shares.. Going a bit further with the test A sees A,B,D.  D sees A,B,D.
  Both B and C see only their own shares but on "View workgroup computers" they can't access the network
  and get the "NETWORK PATH NOT FOUND"

>>Open the Services console<<
>>Check the status of following services<<
>>Server<<
>>Workstation<<
>>Tcp/ip Netbios helper<<

  All three of the above services are AUTOMATIC and STARTEDon all computers.

>>Can the computer B ping other machines u name and IP?<<
>>Can the computer B go out on Internet?<<

  All computers can access the internet
  Computer A can ping A,C,D.
  Computer B sees the net address of each computer but timesout.
  Computer C cant find any of the hosts.
  Computer D can ping A,C,D. and does not see B at all.

>>Start computer B in safe mode with networking and then try to access the shares.<<

  In safe mode  Computer B can access all other computer shares and vice versa.
  When I return Computer B to  normal mode everything goes back to the way it was (no access problem).

>>Please provide me with answers to the above questions. I'm going to sleep now and would check for your post around 3 PM CST.<<

>>If possible download and install the support tools for your OS from downloads.microsoft.com<<
>>From the command prompt of support tools run the command "netdiag /fix" and after that "netdiag /v > net.txt" <<
>>Paste the contents of net.txt file here for us to see.<<

 I will activate my windows and get the program.

 

by: ajayprkPosted on 2007-01-03 at 14:34:37ID: 18239600

Thanks for the answers. From your post it appears that the computers can see shares of all other computers in safe mode with networking.

The problem in your case appears to be with some 3rd party software or some malware.

Suggestions

1. use the msconfig program to disable all 3rd party startup items and Services
-- Click on start->run-> type msconfig and press enter
-- Click on Services tab
-- check "Hide all microsoft services"
-- Click Disable all
-- Click on Startup items
-- Click Disable all
-- Click Ok and restart the machine

see if this resolves the issue

2. Run a online antivirus scan from safety.live.com or housecall.trendmicro.com

3. go to c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc (Considering c:\windows is your windows folder)
Open the file Hosts in notepad
Make an entry of all machines in the following format in this file

A 192.168.0.1
B 192.168.0.2
C 192.168.0.3
D 192.168.0.4
E 192.168.0.5

(Substitute A, B C D and E with actual computer names and 192.168.0.x with actual IP addresses of these machines) Do this on all 6 machines

Cheers!!

AJ

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