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Network Tepology and structure

Asked by: eteran

Hello all,

I have set up a little IT/Telecommunication firm in a small building. Attach you will find the layout of the building and the topology. This company will provide VOIP services through an asterisk server I have set up and providing internet services to the offices. All this would be running through a T1 I have purchased and once the bandwidth needs it I can get a T3 or E Meteor.  

I have several questions regarding the topology I have set up and am hoping you experts can give me some good feedback.

Segmenting the Offices

I am setting up a main router which you can see in the middle hallway where my office is, without DHCP services. I will only allow this router to take info from IP I set on the router. I am doing this so the offices can't steal internet as all the office will be wired for my service. Each office has its IP address and own router so that one office cant see the info of the other office.  

Is this a good set up and do I protect the office and the main IT center by segmenting the network the way I mentioned above? Do you guys have a better ID to sign up the users to the network and to protect the other offices. If so please write in great detail.


Internet Usage Control

I have not yet thought of this part very well so I wanted to see your opinion. What can I do to make sure one user does not hug the internet bandwidth. Is there software that can track this and tell me this IP used this amount of bandwidth and can I take current snap shots of the network to make sure all is set up well. What are your recommendations.

Telephony

I have purchased an edge water router to control voice over data so the quality of my VOIp is clear. Is there anything else I can do to assure myself it would work well.


Data backup

I want to set up a data backup server for the offices. Any idea of good linux server software that can offer control on the data backup such as users, folder size and extra? L


I thank you for your feedback.

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by: MikeHolcombPosted on 2009-10-31 at 07:54:05ID: 25709990


Segmenting the Offices

Ideally, your router would have an interface (physical or logical) for each office to connect their router directly to which would help segment each office from the other and allow for easier management of your customers.  This would also help with your next question on Internet Usage Control in case one customer wants to consume all of the available bandwidth by using P2P file sharing for downloading music and movies.

Internet Usage Control

It would depend on the type of equipment you have, but in the Cisco world you can enable Netflow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netflow) on your Cisco routers to watch for traffic flow to examine your customers utilization as well as for malicious traffic (infected hosts sending spam, workstations performing P2P file sharing, etc).

You could also use an open-source application such as Cacti (www.cacti.net) and Nagios (www.nagios.org) to watch each of your network interfaces for bandwidth and performance issues, along with the equipment itself.

Telephony

Sounds like you're off to a good start.  Just make sure to monitor your hardware for any performance issues, especially for CPU and memory utilization that could affect voice quality.

Data backup

Others might have suggestions for you, but you can get a start with the list at http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Administration/Backup.html.  Unfortunately, all of the backup software I am familiar with isn't free.

Hope this helps...

Mike

 

by: FASupportPosted on 2009-10-31 at 08:31:44ID: 25710121

this is a very involved question.  i hope my experience helps...

lets start off with VOIP theory.  in theory putting VOIP and Data on same lan works. in reality it does work sometimes and sometimes you have issues.  even with COS, stuff happens...especially when on the same pipe with data all the way into the cloud. i would never put Voip calls on the same lan as data.

my first recommendation is to implement a VLAN based system, layer 3 would be optimal.  This will allow you to segregate the offices if needed and overlap the core services if needed.

VLAN 1 could be voip traffic to and from the asterisk box as well as out the door into the cloud.
VLAN 2 could be shared services of the office...your back up server, any shared printers.

i would give yourself some vlan numbering space up to 10 for any future growth, ideas, etc.

VLAN 10-17 will be your offices.

Now the really cool part of doing this is that you can turn off the ports leading to vlans on and off at will through a managed switch. this will control your access issue. and this will do it more securely than through your ip setting on the server solution.

this will also give your users ability to be as isolated or open as they wish.  lets say you have a client that actually take up two offices...you can bridge those vlans and they can be on their own network, while the other users cant see their data.

it provides both flexibility, manageability and most important, security in your set up.

my next recommendation would be to have two connections out the door...one for your data only traffic, and the second for your voice.  I only have experience with Shoretel, Packet8, and Avaya, and have no experience with Asterisk...but i would bet large sums of money that the systems work better when you have them travel out their own connection.

This will ensure that no amount of data spike will kill your VOIP traffic. VOIP traffic is sensitive and the day that i split my vlans and had the voice travel through its own dedicated connection was the happiest day of my life.

as for internet usage control. there are many tools out there, but if you have the ability to bring in linux (i bring this up as you mentioned it laer in your post)...i would have you check out Cacti.  its just a reporting tool. but its a damn good reporting tool.

as for the actual bandiwdth throttling...it all depends on the rest of your hardware and servers.  it can done with a linux box and a router using openwrt (i have been told) all the way to enterprise solutions. give me an idea as to the actual hardware resources you have and i can guide you in the right direction.

and lastly backup...check this out.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/restore/

dont know what your budget is, but this should definitely be well within your budget ;).

 

by: eteranPosted on 2009-10-31 at 20:15:08ID: 25712486

Wow great amount of detail. Is there a way we can talk to go over more consultation. I don;t mind paying a couple of hours of consultation if yo don;t mind.

 

by: junipllcPosted on 2009-10-31 at 20:46:34ID: 25712532

Fantastic information posted so far! I only have a few comments to add:

Is this being set up as a call center? The reason I'm asking this is because of the number of phones to bandwidth. A single T1 line can support up to 24 phones at any given time (at 64Kbps each, 1.536Mbps total). You have more phones on the plan than that, so if all the phones could possibly be used at the same time you will certainly run into bandwidth contention, resulting in choppy sound quality and all kinds of other unpleasantness.

Another system I use for monitoring is Hyperic HQ (open source version) -- it can monitor all sorts of metrics and alert on them as well. It may be overkill, or it may not do what you need it to do, but it's top-quality open source (free, both in the "free pizza" and "free to use as you wish" sense) that might be worth looking into. I was looking into Nagios and Cacti as well but Hyperic fit the bill for my needs. That, and it's rather pretty to look at.

Hyperic HQ can be found living at http://www.hyperic.com/ and the Asterisk plugin is at http://support.hyperic.com/display/hypcomm/Asterisk



Good luck!

Michael

 

by: eteranPosted on 2009-10-31 at 20:54:53ID: 25712543

Confused the software mentionedby FASupport: is not free?? I thought it was open source

 

by: FASupportPosted on 2009-11-02 at 08:39:33ID: 25720917

the backup solution i mentioned was "free".  But really, if you use a software, even if its opensource, you should kick back a little to those spending their time creating the software for you.  but thats just my opinion.

as for the consulting...i would be more than happy to.  but let me diagram the install first. if after i diagram the install you still want to consult, then so be it. I will work on this plan and will have it posted most likely by tuesday, 11/3/09.

 

by: junipllcPosted on 2009-11-02 at 12:02:02ID: 25723126

FASupport: very, very true. Open source is "free software", and Hyperic (among most other open source developers) offer support services at very reasonable rates.

Support Open Source!

OK, I'm going to get off my soapbox now. ;)

Michael

 

by: eteranPosted on 2009-11-05 at 05:36:34ID: 25749235

Great info in this side. I have a question which routers support Vlan?

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