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trace route an email sent

Asked by: gueraf

sending emails not being received by recepient, no bounce back received which means it is getting dropped someplace. need to trace where the emails are ending up.
- suspected antispam, but turned off antispam(on destination server(turned off RBL, Brightmail and Exchange's built in smart filter)) and email still does not get received

note: recepient receives emails from others and sender has no trouble with sending to others
Lotus Notes sending server and receiving is an Exchange Server 2003

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2007-04-16 at 13:59:29ID22514764
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Answers

 

by: abraham808Posted on 2007-04-16 at 14:20:51ID: 18920799

Try using Message Tracking from ESM.

 

by: guerafPosted on 2007-04-16 at 14:46:17ID: 18920948

the email is coming from a lotus notes server into my exchange server
Exchange System Manager's message tracking isn't helping.

 

by: redseatechnologiesPosted on 2007-04-16 at 14:47:06ID: 18920952

Message tracking would be great, except as the recipient, your hands are tied.  This really needs to be troubleshooted (troubleshot?) from the sending server (the Notes machine) - if it gets stuck in the middle, your server will have never known about it.

-red

 

by: guerafPosted on 2007-04-16 at 14:51:43ID: 18920970

That is what I need to somehow figure out where the emails are ending up, is there any software that would somehow log the route an email is taking(I need the sender to log that route)?

 

by: redseatechnologiesPosted on 2007-04-16 at 15:23:17ID: 18921125

I only do exchange, so we will have to wait for a lotus guy to show up.

Although, it appears that Lotus has message tracking as well - but the best I have about this is a random link -> http://www.codestore.net/help/help6_client.nsf/f4b82fbb75e942a6852566ac0037f284/7b9144fbdca540bc85256c1c003819e5?OpenDocument

This looks as though it needs to be run from the lotus client that send the mail - but it may be totally irrelevant (just thought I would throw it out there while we wait)

-red

 

by: guerafPosted on 2007-04-16 at 15:25:03ID: 18921137

anything would help

 

by: abraham808Posted on 2007-04-16 at 18:10:44ID: 18921714

Can't the sender's sys admin help you out with the tracking to see if it even left their server?

 

by: guerafPosted on 2007-04-16 at 18:20:28ID: 18921758

Their IT tells me that my system is dropping the email, they see on their system that it left their server.

 

by: redseatechnologiesPosted on 2007-04-16 at 18:25:40ID: 18921773

You can check the SMTP logs on your server and see if it actually touches your machine;

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Logging_the_SMTP_Service.html

-red

 

by: SysExpertPosted on 2007-04-16 at 19:01:40ID: 18921920

Noets does have a trace option that the sender can enable, but i am not sure how well it works, once it leaves the Notes Domain.

It should at least trace up to the last Notes server before conversion to SMTP.

Under delivery options, delivery report - choose trace .

Beyond that someone would need to lokk at the outgoing SMTP logs etc.

I hope this helps !

 

by: What90Posted on 2007-04-17 at 21:06:16ID: 18929324

The Notes system can have their SMTP gateway log the emails sent. I'd ask the Notes folks to send a couple of test emails your way and forward on the error messages.

If they can't do that, then ask them to telnet to your exchange server smtp port to see if they can connect.

That should tell you if the email is ever leaving the system and what the error messages are.

 

by: zahid_hamzaPosted on 2007-05-04 at 00:40:09ID: 19029299

Try to use SMTPDebug parameter in Notes.ini file it will help u out.
Here is the Link:
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=463&context=SSKTMJ&dc=DA400&uid=swg27003007&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en&rss=ct463lotus


Regards

 

by: guerafPosted on 2007-05-08 at 09:09:07ID: 19051011

IT on the other side seem to blame TLS as the issue, but I already told them that we don't use TLS at all.
will pass on the link.

thanks zahid.

 

by: guerafPosted on 2007-05-08 at 09:12:10ID: 19051036

They also telneted to my exchange server and was successfull.

 

by: guerafPosted on 2007-05-24 at 13:02:40ID: 19152358

My mistake, checked the Exchange server and server is broadcasting TLS(SSL), which was causing problem with this particular sender. Funny thing is when we look at the logs everyone else sending to us who chooses to use TLS are not having any trouble. My only solution is to unistall certificate for my SMTP.

Thanks everyone for your help!

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