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Assigning printers to a sub net

Asked by: DevilWAH

Hi,

I need some ideas, I am about to split up a large network in to subnets. And my first task is to split the printers of in to there own privae network from the rest of the network devices.

They are mostly Dell printers although some are older HP's

Waht I want to know is the best method to do this using a central managed solution, while still leaving the current network as it is.

I need a solution that I can take forward for the pc's / servers as well. I was thinking of it tieing in to AD so I can assigne PC's to vlans based on there OU's.

But where to start ? Would Radius give this kind of control?

The network is almost completly cisco 3750's so i am thinking 802.1x?

Any ideas ?

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Answers

 

by: jfer0x01Posted on 2009-10-26 at 05:24:56ID: 25661511

Hi,

this is probably a design issue.

Consider that you are going to divide the large group into smaller groups, most likely, you will break the group into regions, or business functions.

For instance, California, Florida / or Sales, Accounting. Make the printers part of the OU's based on location, or roles, makes it easier and give the OU access to the printer.

Jfer

 

by: DevilWAHPosted on 2009-10-26 at 05:48:40ID: 25661675

Hi,

Sorry I think you missed my point,

I know I can add the printers to an OU, but I was wondeiring what is the best central managment "sever /device" to talk between the Switchs and AD to assigen the switch ports to a VLAN based on OU group or any other credentials I require.

I am looking at implementign basic 802.1x / NAC on our network, and am wonding where is a good place to start from that can easly migrate in to a full NAC solution.

 

by: jfer0x01Posted on 2009-10-29 at 05:14:27ID: 25692718

 

by: DevilWAHPosted on 2009-10-29 at 05:24:00ID: 25692795

Hi there I understand seettign up AAA
for logins, enalbes, and for PPP links

but what I dont know is how you go about configuring a radius server and the switch for the specifice part of

"if item is in OU X assign port to VLAN Y. other wise port is in VLAN Z" I cant find that on the documents you suggested.

 

by: jfer0x01Posted on 2009-10-29 at 05:35:56ID: 25692890

Hi,

I fouind the Cisco URT tool, but it may not work on 3750's

http://www.securitytechnet.com/resource/rsc-center/vendor-wp/cisco/urt_wp.pdf

Worth a shot

Jfer

 

by: DevilWAHPosted on 2009-11-03 at 09:23:29ID: 25731252

I have decided to do this usiong 802.1x port base authentication.

this will aloow me with a radius server to authenticate the host PC's based on AD,

however now I have a problem with printers, they are not 802.1x, so i will ahve to fall back to mac address.

Dows any one know how you can use localy data bases (so i can set up mac address and localy user names) with the radius server built in to windows server? I can only see how to get it to authenticate using AD?

 

by: jfer0x01Posted on 2009-11-07 at 16:32:34ID: 25768823

Hi,

was out most of the week.

You can accomplish the MAC authentication for your printers in RADIUS, in AD.

Here's a sample configuration for IAS to Cisco via RADIUS

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1478/how-to-setup-ias-to-use-radius-to-authenticate-cisco-device/


I have seen for printers to authenticate, make them User accounts in AD, where Name, and the password is the MAC address, but the password is MAC address in lower case.

http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Server/2003_Server/Q_23342891.html

Hopes this gives you a better view of what you must do.

Jfer

 

by: DevilWAHPosted on 2009-11-10 at 04:46:10ID: 31645822

Hi there,

Cheers for that. I was reading through the Cisco documentation and finly saw it mentions it passes the mac as user name and password.

looks stirght forward enough.

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