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thought on snmp design

Asked by: nabeel92

I have a central SNMP server (Solar Winds Orion Network performance monitor) installed in my co-location and it's able to retrieve SNMP data from a Linux server in the branch site (after port forwarding udp 161 to that linux box and configuring snmp on that) .... Now there are other devices in that branch network (PCs, print servers, etc) and I want all that SNMP data on my main server in the co-location !  How can I achieve that ?

What I'm thinking is that all devices should send their SNMP data (or traps) to this linux server on the branch site which is already talking to my main SNMP server .... And then my SNMP server should be able to retrieve the data for all my SNMP clients .... ??????  Is this practically possible !

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by: uetian1707Posted on 2009-08-18 at 23:04:02ID: 25129940

Hi,

While monitoring your infrastructure using SNMP protocol there are two methods.

1- Using SNMP Queries
2- Using SNMP Traps

Using SNMP queries, your Orion NPM can query all the servers/printers or any other devices which support SNMP and are accessible to your NPM Server. For traps you can configure all the devices to send any significant event to your NPM.

 

by: c01000100Posted on 2009-08-19 at 03:13:22ID: 25131026

I'm unaware if SW NPM supports a remote polling server.  An alternate would be to configure port forwarding from unused ports(ie 50161, 51161, 52161) and have the NPM send requests to the branch network's public ip on those previously unused ports.

 

by: nociPosted on 2009-08-19 at 05:11:54ID: 25131676

Or may setup a VPN tunnel (IPSEC prefered) to the remote site and allow direct access to any device over there.

 

by: nabeel92Posted on 2009-08-20 at 20:23:40ID: 25148920

uetian 1707 : I guess you misunderstood the question; you gave me generic info tht i already know ...

c01000100: Yes, I tried port forwarding rules on the router but here is a funny behavior i observed with Orion Net. Performance monitor ... It detects only one device at a time (the last one i search thru discovery) .. Say, if I defined a port forwarding rule for 2 servers in that network, It would detect only one of those two (and always detects the last one) ... It would stop monitoring the first one as soon as I monitor any other server in that network ..

noci: Absolutely right, but ive a DMVPN tunnel architecture setup that only supports a few handful of cisco branch sites i have ... Majority of the branches are still on billion/draytek routers ... I could setup IpSec but then for 200 branches, it would be a total mess of the configuration on my VPN Hub Router ...

 

by: nociPosted on 2009-08-21 at 00:48:34ID: 25149772

you will have to do some configuration over all anyway..., make it simple and network, only in that way you wont configure a lot of things that need to be undone (or are nearly impossible te replace) later on.

Consider 200+ * Nequipment special cases to be configered against tunneling where you need 200+ tunnels and a straight forward routable network.

The configuration is on access routers at remote sites as well as in your central monitor equipment. (& Documentation).

 

by: nabeel92Posted on 2009-08-24 at 22:21:03ID: 25174704

Hi Noci,
going back to the port forwarding thing you mentioned, thats what am trying to implements...Now this is the way its currently setup

Wireless Access Point <----> Linux Server (PXE) <----> Router <----> Internet

Am interested in monitoring Wireless access point .... Now I've defined port forwarding rule on router to forward any traffic on port 5961 to port 1611 of Linux Server and right now trying to define a port forwarding rule (using ip tables) to forward traffic of UDP 1161 on Linux Server to port 161 of Wireless access point ... In other words, Double port forwarding rules ....

It works fine if I do single port forwarding from Router to Linux and then can monitor the Linux Server but I want to monitor the wireless access point....

I'm looking for a port forwarding rule on this Linux server that would forward all traffic on port 1161 to port 161 to WAP...using iptables ?

 

by: nociPosted on 2009-08-25 at 01:09:36ID: 25175347

All on one line...
---8<---
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i {internetethadapter} -o {ethernetadaptertoWAP} -p udp --dport 1161 -j DNAT --to-destination {WAPaddress}:161
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i {internetethadapter} -o {ethernetadaptertoWAP} -p tcp --dport 1161 -j DNAT --to-destination {WAPaddress}:161
---8<---
You have to fill in the specifics of the items between {..} marks.
You at least need the udp rule, and maybe sometimes the tcp rule.

Also you need to filter for traffic that originates from your central office. 4-lines:
---8<---
iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -p udp -s {yourcentralIP} -o {WAPaddress} --dport 161 -j ACCEPT
iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -p udp --dport 161 -j DROP
iptables t filter -A FORWARD -p tcp -s {yourcentralIP} -o {WAPaddress} --dport 161 -j ACCEPT
iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 161 -j DROP
---8<---


ip_forward needs to be enabled:
(1 line)
---8<---
echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
---8<---
Mostly there is some sysfs file that sets thisup

 

by: nabeel92Posted on 2009-08-25 at 18:38:02ID: 25183828

thanks noci, do these changes need to go just on the console or in any config file for iptables ?

 

by: nociPosted on 2009-08-25 at 23:29:30ID: 25184848

that depends, if you want to experiment just on the console. You might need a rulenumber after the chanin (INPUT,FORWARD...) name to add them to the right spot.
if you are satisfied with its working you need to add them to the iptables start file.
The location of that file differs from distro to distro.

CENTOS/RHEL parks it in /etc/sysconfig/iptables
Gentoo in /var/lib/iptables/rules-save

The script that relalises the tables is mostly called: /etc/init.d/iptables
in that script is a iptables-restore <'somefile' , somefile is the iptables configuration.

 

by: nabeel92Posted on 2009-08-25 at 23:48:32ID: 31617420

thanks for the great help !

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