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Ability to use two DHCP servers in one LAN

Asked by: moh10ly

Hi Experts...
I'm curious to know if there's away to use 2 DHCP servers in one with priority to DHCP on Windows Server 2003 machine, and a DHCP router as a secondary DHCP server...

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance..

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2009-10-26 at 05:17:07ID24843232
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2 DHCP in one lan

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DHCP win2k3

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dhcp router.

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Windows 2003 Server

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Windows Networking

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Answers

 

by: demazterPosted on 2009-10-26 at 05:21:43ID: 25661487

You could add part of the same scope to your Router and part to your Windows Server.

So for example you could set your Windows server to: 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.100 and then set your router to 192.168.0.101 to 192.168.0.200

This will not set a priority and clients could get them from either server but it will provide you with a little resilience.  You just need to ensure the router one is configured to use the Windows server as DNS.

With the exception of Small Business Server 200x, if you install another DHCP server on a network with SBS then the SBS one will shut down.

 

by: KCTSPosted on 2009-10-26 at 05:23:18ID: 25661502

DONT use the DHCP in a router, the router based DHCP does not have all the options needed for most domains. You can if you like use 2 Windows DHCP servers - the simplest option (assuming its a single subnet), it to sphit the scope between the two DHCP servers eg set one to use the IPs 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.100 and the other to use 192.168.1.101 - 192.168.1.200

So long as the two scopes do not overlap than there will be no issues.

 

by: chukuPosted on 2009-10-26 at 05:24:14ID: 25661505

you can use 2 servers in one segment but can't set priority
what you can do is set a 20/80 config where the server you want to hold the majority of the load have 80% of the IPs and the other one 20%. this way you nsure more IPs will be assigned by the primary but if there are enough IPs on the secondary server it can theoretically assign all the IPs

 

by: QuetzalPosted on 2009-10-26 at 05:26:59ID: 25661525

I agree that multiple DHCP servers can be messy.  You can keep Server 2003 DHCP from shutting down by:

Set the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\DHCPServer\Parameters
Value name: DisableRogueDetection
Data type: REG_DWORD
Value data: 1

 

by: MikeHolcombPosted on 2009-10-26 at 05:27:12ID: 25661527

If you want to force certain systems to obtain assigned IP addresses through DHCP, rather than a random IP from the DHCP server scope, you can use DHCP Lease Reservations with each server to assign these "static" IP addresses - not that you would want to do it for too many systems.

Here's a link to creating DHCP Lease Reservation instructions in http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/DHCP_Server_Windows_2003.html.

Just an additional thought...

Mike

 

by: sarangk_14Posted on 2009-10-26 at 05:39:16ID: 25661601

Just a clarification required; are you looking to set up the secondary DHCP server for fail-over or load balancing?

 

by: moh10lyPosted on 2009-10-26 at 06:01:07ID: 25661762

Thanks everyone, Actually the idea of having 2 DHCP servers is for a Fail-over situation .
In case that I had a problem with the server during the time i'm not in the office.. I want all the clients to be able to get IP through the second DHCP server by only selecting the repair option on the LAN properties.

All I need to do is just tell my assistant to shutdown the server so by then next DHCP server is available when the repair option is selected.

 

by: KCTSPosted on 2009-10-26 at 06:06:35ID: 25661818

The just use multiple windows DHCP servers as I suggested - that will do the trick and will allow you to specify the full range of dmain specific information that is not present in router based DHCP.

Do bear in mind that for additional fault tollerance you would also find it useful to have at least two Domain controllers, both of which are also Global Catalog and DNS servers.

 

by: moh10lyPosted on 2009-10-26 at 06:15:22ID: 25661881

The reason why I want to use the second DHCP of the router device is becoz the internet gateway is separate on both Windows Server Machine and ADSL router.

Windows Server has 2 Lan cards and is using Leased Line connection, I know I can add another Lan card and use the ADSL router on a third LAN, but this needs routing configuration to be applied and needs someone knows well what is he doing ... I'm not sure my assistant can do this .

So I need it to be simple for him,,,, just to shutdown the server and do the repair option on the clients or maybe restart the switch.


 

by: KCTSPosted on 2009-10-26 at 06:20:31ID: 25661924

Ok in that case have the two Windows DHCP servers set up and set one with the different gateway that you need - but leave the DHCP scope inactive (or unauthorised). When a problem occurs just activate/authorise the decond DHCP server. Once the problem is fixes then deactivate/unauthorise it again

 

by: demazterPosted on 2009-10-26 at 06:21:54ID: 25661934

Or go with the option I mentioned and then no user intervention is required.

 

by: KCTSPosted on 2009-10-26 at 06:25:36ID: 25661970

but if you do that you cannot be sure which DHCP server will respond and if the router happens to "get in first", then there will be not be able to specify such things as WINS servers, domain name etc via DHCP - this is Ok if you do not need to use these options - but could cause issues if you do.

 

by: premillardPosted on 2009-10-27 at 05:01:31ID: 25671356

Yes it can be done. This should help.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc958920.aspx

 

by: moh10lyPosted on 2009-10-28 at 09:08:44ID: 31645834

Thanks everyone, I actually made it simpler than that... I have told my assistant to just change the gateway of the WAN Card on the server to use 192.168.1.10 << which is the ADSL router IP...
so the server will act normally ... he only needs to change the cable.

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