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How to use a file share on a novell server without using the novell client

Asked by: lcullum01

I am trying to get to a file share from a computer that i have set up in a windows XP and logs onto a Windows 2003 server environment.  I do not have or want to have the novell client on the computer but need to reach some file share that is on my novell environment.  Is there anyway to do this?

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2007-07-19 at 08:02:48ID22707188
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by: alextoftPosted on 2007-07-19 at 12:07:04ID: 19525072

Novell server? Netware? Linux? 4? 5? 6? We need to know.

<if> it's a Netware 6.5 server, this can be done easily. You need 2 things;

1) Enable CIFS
2) Enable Universal Password

<if> it's an older version of Netware there are ways to do it providing it's Netware 5+, but it's done differently.

Tell us what version of Netware (after all, Novell sell lots of software, but I'm guessing Netware since you posted in the Netware TA).

 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2007-07-19 at 13:23:51ID: 19525762

Is there a reason for being client-averse?  Just because you don't want to, or have you been hearing and believing scare stories?  I can tell you truthfully that 99.9999% of the scare stories are just that - stories, told to scare you away from NetWare, the Novell client, and anything else Novell-related.  They may have some remote relation to facts, but are more often anecdotal or unsubstantiated rumor, often spread by unsuspecting techies or 3rd-party software support folks that are either ignorant of reality or hope to bend reality to their viewpoint to narrow your choices and make their jobs easier by not having to look outside their box.

The easy way, if you're not a NetWare administrator/engineer, is to install the Novell Client32.  You do not need to set it up to be primary login provider, or to support anything not needed for the secure access to the files/directories you have need to access.  It will sit there unobtrusively waiting for you to try to access a NetWare resource, when it will kick into action.

"shares" are a windows-ism, by the way.  The only way you can have a "share" on NetWare is to use CIFS, to emulate a Windows server.  Same for Linux/*nix which don't have "shares" unless they run Samba to emulate a Windows server.

 

by: lcullum01Posted on 2007-07-23 at 05:17:30ID: 19546593

I believe it is Netware 5 or higher.  I cannot install the client as i do not want them logging into that server. I use a windows base and they need to get to a resource on that server and trying to help the engineer figure out how to make that possible.

Thanks

 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2007-07-30 at 11:25:25ID: 19594576

So, you've got three options, depending, again, on what version of NetWare it is.

1)  If it's NetWare 6.5 SP6, enable CIFS and establish a "share."  The reason I limit the choice to that version/SP of NetWare is because older versions of CIFS do not support Vista access, at all.

2)  Find a way to "gateway" the access to the NetWare server, either by using Windows 2000 Server and Gateway Services for NetWare (GSNW) which is crapware(tm) but might serve your purpose

3)  Install the Novell Client32 on a Windows server, map a drive to the volume/directory and establish a "share" for the mapped drive - and then access it through the Windows server.  Never tried this, but Alextoft has mentioned it in another Question recently.  I don't know that it's supported by either Microsoft or Novell, but if it works, why complain?  

Either 2) or 3) will result in loss of granularity of security, as all users given access to the "share" presented by either method would get all the rights granted to the user that's logging in, whether it be the GSNW user or the user ID used to log in to NetWare on the 2003 server, but are more likely to work in older NetWare environments.

The fourth option is to "bite the bullet" and install the Novell Client32 on your client PCs.  It does not have to be "first in line" - you can set it not to be primary login., so your users still see the Windows GINA, and don't see a Novell login screen unless and until they try to access the resource on the NetWare server, whether it be from a persistent-mapped drive or via a shortcut, or via the context menu of the "N" icon in the system info area (systray.)

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