Question

Convert Edir to AD Driver to Bi Directional

Asked by: JRose628

We currently are running Novell Identity Manager 3.5 and using it to sync to AD.  We currently have all of our Novell structure going to a OU in AD named novell and then the novell structure is duplicated in OUs under the Novell OU.

What we need is to make this driver bi- directional now.  We need to sync passwords from AD to Edir and also only sync AD users that are created on the AD out Novell.  We dont want Home Directories to sync but I dont think IDM will even do that unless we set something up, which we didnt.  


Current:

Edir -> AD
Tree -> Novell OU
Universal Passwords -> AD password
Novell Group -> AD Group
User Information <-> AD User Information

Wanted
EDir <-> AD
Tree <-> Novell OU (Keeping structure so a container in the tree will be created as a OU under NOVELL OU in Microsoft, which is how we currently have it setup)
Passwords <-> AD Passwords
Novell Group <-> AD Group
User Information <-> Ad User Information
Home Directory Doesnt Sync wither way.

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2009-06-19 at 08:13:23ID24505983
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Answers

 

by: ZENandEmailguyPosted on 2009-06-19 at 09:29:07ID: 24667830

One of my engineers can reach in via remote control and do this for you but we would need to discuss timeframes, costs, testing, expectations, etc.  We're not supposed to post an email address in our responses so I'll have to think how you'll contact me if you're interested.

You're right about IDM doesn't sync the file system (home directories).  You need Novell Storage Manager (formerly File System Factory) to do that.  It is an amazing product.

Scott

 

by: alextoftPosted on 2009-06-19 at 10:32:05ID: 24668340

With passwords synced there's no reason to have 2 home directories anyway. You can easily populate the AD homedir with a UNC path and AD clients will mount the home dir via Samba on Netware. Occasionally you'll have a Windoze box moan at you that it's not a valid UNC path when modifying users in AD, but it's perfectly valid; it's not a path to a box in the AD, certainly not invalid.

Critical thing to remember is that you need to decide which directory is the authority on password policy. In your case it sounds like eDirectory. Disable ALL password policies in AD in regard to expiry time, length etc... Otherwise you can potentially end up with a situation where a user sets a password in eDir, it syncs to AD which decides it doesn't comply with it's policy and you get an event triggered which loops back to eDir and makes a mess of that too, leaving the user unable to login. This happened to me when I did my first bi-directional eDir/AD driver about 5 years ago and the AD administrator hadn't done what he promised. Resulted in some frantic LDIF butchery and an experience I don't wish to repeat.

Essentially you just need to modify the driver filters to allow OU, group and CN (and the desired attributes) to flow back to eDirectory, although I'd high recommend testing it in a dev environment first to make sure all goes smoothly.




 

by: JRose628Posted on 2009-06-19 at 11:26:35ID: 24668812

Alextoft,

Thanks for a reply other then pay me to do it.  Here is the deal we are moving away from Edirectory and are going to start using AD as our Authoritive System. We want to create users in AD and home directories on MS servers but not have that field go to EDir because well that would cause some errors.  

What I am really curious about is how does AD notify EDir about a password change?  Is it the same way that EDir notifies AD?  DO i just enable notify on that channel.  

Also when stuff starts syncing back to EDir from AD will it be only stuff from the NOVELL OU and under since right now I have all EDIr syncing to a OU named novell?

 

by: ZENandEmailguyPosted on 2009-06-19 at 12:06:14ID: 24669086

I didn't mean to send you a reply offering a consulting only option for payment.  IDM is a big deal and done wrong kills directories...I've seen it happen to directories with thousands of users and it is not pretty.

Regarding passwords, you must have Universal Password setup which creates what IDM considers the "distribution password".  You cannot sync existing passwords to either directory...a password change must occur *after* the password sync driver is in place.

IDM allows you to specify which attribute is authoritative from which directory.  If you don't want an attribute syncing from AD back to eDirectory, don't let it.

 

by: alextoftPosted on 2009-06-20 at 04:06:49ID: 24673257

IDM is all event driven. The eDirectory side is no problem; Novell knows how eDir works as it's their product and the ModifyObject event is passed to the IDM driver. Doesn't matter what you do to the object, it will be sent to the driver. Even just running a JRB to essentially modify nothing at all, the event is triggered and the object processed. It will attempt to sync all attributes of that object.

If you were to unload the IDM driver, modify an object (say, change user phone number), flush the IDM event cache and then restart the driver the object would not be processed as it's unaware of the change. However if you then change the user's password, the phone number will sync because all attributes are processed.

On the AD side you've got the Identity Manager plugin (usually hides away in Control Panel), which you will have installed on your DC with the remote loader. That basically catches passwords as they're changed, before they're committed to the directory. In the IDM driver filter the nspmDistributionPassword is set as "notify" in 1 direction and "sync" in the other. I can't remember which way around off the top of my head.

It's probably worth setting up a bi-directional driver from scratch (not starting it) and then comparing the 2 side by side in iManager (or Designer, if that's your thing).

So far as what objects will sync, essentially anything under the Base DN specified in your driver, unless you've done something like exclude the OU class in the filter, in which case subcontainer users would only sync if the OU is actually present in the destination directory.

Been a few months since I've got down and dirty with IDM and I kinda miss it.


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