Question

Creating Cname Record For Secure OWA Site https through internal dns server

Asked by: swappedsr

I need help.  I have an outlook web access site, lets call it, https://mail.bob.com.  I cannot access this inside the network, only externally.  I have been reading and I created a new Zone, non-Ad integrated for this bob.com domain, but I don't know how to setup the actual CNAME record.  I am working in Windows DNS and I have tried these.

Alias Name:  https

FQDN: https.bob.com

FQDN for target host:  Don't know what to put, I put mail.bob.com

The A record I have is, which seems to be working:

Host:   www

FQDN: www.pfwmedia.com

Ip Address: 10.185.10.18



By the way my exchange is internal and I don't handle my external dns records.

Any help is much appreciated.

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2009-06-03 at 11:01:18ID24460991
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DNS

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OWA

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https

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Internal Dns

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Cname Record

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A record

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Domain Name Service (DNS)

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Answers

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-03 at 11:19:34ID: 24539481


> Alias Name:  https

This is the name you want to resolve. So if you want someone to go to "mail.bob.com" you would enter "mail" here.

> FQDN for target host:  Don't know what to put, I put mail.bob.com

And this is where the server is. So if it's an Exchange server inside your network you could use the FQDN of the Exchange server.

e.g.

exchangeserver.yourinternaldomain.local

That way anyone accessing "mail.bob.com" will end up at the IP address for "exchangeserver.yourinternaldomain.local".

HTH

Chris

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-03 at 12:10:54ID: 24540062

Got it working, Thanks Chris.  

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-03 at 12:11:49ID: 31588427

Chris is the best, he has answered my questions before.  Straight to the point and very easy on the explanation.

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-04 at 11:58:48ID: 24550195

Chris, I have a problem now.  When I do a smtpdiag to test email to another domain, my local dns MX record check fails now and it makes sense why.  I think it is because I am now authoritative for the pfwmedia.com and there are no MX records in there, I just put an alias.  Should I add the servers MX records to my local dns box now?

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:00:36ID: 24550216

And yes it isn't bob.com it is pfwmedia.com  Let me know.  Here is a screen shot of the error, when I take out the zone for pfwmedia.com it doesn't give me the errors.  Strange thing is shouldn't email be failing around here if it can't reach the MX records?



 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:01:22ID: 24550228


Internal domain name is the same as the public domain name?

Chris

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:03:37ID: 24550261


> Strange thing is shouldn't email be failing around here if it can't reach the MX records?

Not if it's internal only, no.

Shall we re-do the zone for mail then? There's another way that'll let it get on with that test and be happy :)

Instead of creating the Forward Lookup Zone as "pfwmedia.com", call it "mail.pfwmedia.com".

Then add a Host (A) Record to that new zone, but leave the name blank. Pop in the internal IP address for the mail server and it's all done.

Afraid you won't be able to use a CNAME record with this version, but it will allow everything else in pfwmedia.com to resolve without any extra work.

Chris

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:09:56ID: 24550330

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by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:15:02ID: 24550388

My internal domain name is psip-pfw.local and the dns name for email hosted by network solutions is pfwmedia.com

The MX records are hosted  by network solutions, which point to the MX servers of a third party company that do filtering for us called AppRiver

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:16:15ID: 24550408


Cool, okay. The method above, adjusting the zone name you create internally, will allow it to resolve the MX records properly with very little work :)

Chris

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:21:16ID: 24550460

Ah, so I can't use a CNAME if I go the mail.pfwmedia.com route, because the forward lookup zone is essentially already in CNAME format correct?  

How come with local MX records nothing is failing, is it because exchange doesn't need to look at MX records when sending email internally?

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:27:58ID: 24550536


Yeah, adding a CNAME would be illegal, DNS won't like it :) But that's okay, it'll work in almost the same way like this.

And yep, Exchange uses it's own transfer agent, only looking up MX records for things that go out of your organisation. Really you should be able to ignore the error completely if you wish :)

Chris

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-04 at 12:29:54ID: 24550560

Awesome, you are the best.  

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-04 at 14:42:41ID: 24551705

Chris, last question.  Can I put external addresses for A records?  Also, can I put ip addresses for Cname Records?

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-05 at 00:16:47ID: 24553891


Yep for external IP Addresses. And no for CNAME, Aliases only point to other names. Nothing to stop you using a public name though.

Chris

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-05 at 13:58:39ID: 24560117

Gotcha!, Any reason why the CNAME is setup to use name vs IP?

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-06 at 02:06:37ID: 24562339


It fills a need. If you need to use IP Addresses then you want a Host (A) record, CNAME is the only one that can point a name at another name. It all makes sense if you spend long enough reading books / RFCs on the topic ;)

Chris

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-06 at 15:33:41ID: 24564538

Good deal, thanks Chris.  Sorry, I love picking peoples brains.  

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-06-08 at 01:25:00ID: 24569910


No worries, you can pick all you want ;)

Chris

 

by: swappedsrPosted on 2009-06-15 at 12:10:45ID: 24631961

Hey Chris, how good are you with PIX firewalls?  I am trying to learn what some of this syntax means

route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 69.12.10.128 1    --->what does the 1 mean at the end?

I know this is a default route so whatever this router doesn't know it will forward it to this .128 device, I don't know what the 1 at the end stands for

Also,

static (inside, outside) 69.12.10.124  10.185.10.18 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0  --->  Don't understand why this has a subnet mask of this 255.255.255.255 and why it has 0 0 at the end of it.  

Hopefully you know, I am trying to learn how to configure/make changes to existing pix.  

Thanks, Bob

20120131-EE-VQP-002

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