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WINS Server for XP Pro

Tags: wins, server, xp
Is there a WINS Server emulation program that can be installed on an XP Pro machine where there is no 2000 or 2003 server where a WINS server can be implemented.

Thanks!

Steve Parker
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07.18.2007 at 12:46PM PDT, ID: 19516705
I can't think of anything like that off the top of my head, I know SAMBA can do WINS, you can try running Linux in VMware on a XP box and do it that way.

Any particular reason why you need WINS? You can use NETBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution, even Netbeui if you get desperate.
 
07.18.2007 at 02:10PM PDT, ID: 19517392

Rank: Wizard

In addition for a small network with fixed IP's you can even use host files.

What appears to be the problem ?

I hope this helps !
 
07.18.2007 at 06:35PM PDT, ID: 19518584

Rank: Sage

WINS is really only needed when you have multiple subnets.  If you have multiple subnets, then you likely have a server already which can run WINS...

I agree... what's the perceived need?
 
07.19.2007 at 01:25AM PDT, ID: 19520164
I have multiple networks linked through multiple firewalls, configured with VPN tunnels that can "see" one another. According to tech support from the firewall provider, Fortigate, WINS must be used to resolve systems, shares and devices, such as time clocks.

The problem is that not all of the sites have their own server, and I am not sure we can use WINS on one site to access a different site that does not have a WINS server. In fact, I cannot see how this can be done.

We have successfully accessed a static IP time clock through the proprietary software from one network to a different one, but the time clock is in a network with a 2003 server running WINS.

We'll likely need to install some kind of server, be it Unix, or 2003, but the full need cannot be fully explored as of yet, so I hesitate to shoot from the hip and take the chance of being way off!

Steve
 
07.19.2007 at 04:38AM PDT, ID: 19520971

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WINS is IP based - you can have ONE WINS server serve the whole network.  I used to manage a network with 2 major sites and about 40 subnets and we only used 2 wins servers - both in the same subnet.

And keep in mind, WINS is Windows Internet Name Server - it's a lookup method like DNS.  One that, in Windows 2000/2003 is really only needed for Exchange.  DNS handles everything else.

I would suggest you reevaluate why you think you need it and perhaps ask other questions regarding why the other programs aren't working then blindly blaming WINS.
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07.19.2007 at 06:55AM PDT, ID: 19521886
I'm not blindly blaming WINS. This came from the techs at Fortinet. And once WINS was configured at the PC, it could "see" the remote site on the different network. But perhaps that one server can service the other networks ... I'll look at it from a different perspective. But I don't see how.

Site A is on, we'll say, 10.1.100.x, site B is 10.1.101.x, site C is 10.1.102.x, etc.

Because of the firewall setup, according to their technical support, WINS needs to be functioning for the VPN tunnels to fully function. We have a WINS server at 10.1.100.x, and so from 10.1.101.x we can see devices at 10.1.100.x.

Although we have not tested it as of yet, I am fairly certain that from 10.1 100.x we WILL NOT be able to see devices at 10.1.101.x because there is no WINS server on that end.

Got it? I am not "blaming" WINS, just looking for a solution short of installing a server of one flavor or another. Looks like I have my answer ... it does not exist.

Thanks!

 
07.19.2007 at 07:14AM PDT, ID: 19522077

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For this kind of stuff, if the addresses are static, use a Hosts file.

I hope this helps !
 
07.19.2007 at 09:21AM PDT, ID: 19523414

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It's clear from this description of WINS, you DO NOT need WINS on multiple networks:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/01b8e158-4587-4269-917a-5ad38c2537021033.mspx?mfr=true

So yes, if you DON'T want to try to resolve your Fortigate problem, then your answer is there is no WINS server for XP.  If you DO want to resolve your problem, then please post some of your technical documentation saying the Fortigate requires WINS.

Maybe you're misinterpreting something or maybe we're misunderstanding something... the documentation may be able to clear things up.

And it's not unheard of to have a technician be WRONG or misinterpret/misdiagnose the problem.
 
07.20.2007 at 08:44AM PDT, ID: 19532182
Sounds to me like the application needs to use the browser service which is based on NetBIOS or is a NetBIOS enabled applcation.  You need a good WINS solution if you want to do NetBIOS name resolution over this type of network.  SysExpert is right about using files, but again if this is for NetBIOS, then the file is lmhosts.  Also using lmhosts in this network is much more administrative work when compared to having a WINS solution since you have to ensure that the file is kept updated on each workstation and server.  Look at the lmhosts.sam file for more information on using a central lmhosts file.

You don't need multiple WINS servers unless you want redundancy.  Just install the service on a server in the network and have all clients and servers point their Network Properties to that IP for WINS.  If you are using DHCP, just add the IP to the scope properties which is option 44 - NetBIOS Name Servers.  
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