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WSUS - Put on a Domain Controller?

Tags: WSUS Domain Controller
Hey Gang,
I'm getting to the point where I want to start using WSUS. Not only for ease of updating, but also for my MCSA/MSCE studies and just because I'd like to learn how to. Anyways....

Would there be any real reason why I should not put WSUS on a domain controller?

I have 5 windows 2003 servers (1 DC, 1 exchange, 1 SQL dedicated and 2 other file servers). I know my exchange and SQL are pretty heavily used, the two file server get used some. My DC is the newest server and is very fast (2 CPU's, 2 GB RAM, lots of disk space). While I normally don't like to put anything on my DC i don't have to, I think this would make sense.

Anything else with WSUS that I should look out for? Do's/Dont's/gotcha's?


Thanks in advance
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Question Asked By: NetAdmin2436
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05.09.2008 at 10:11AM PDT, ID: 21534803

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Hi,

I wouldn't put WSUS on a DC personally.  If you start using it to it's fullest it will take up a lot of resources and a significant amount of disk space.  It requires IIS, ASP, MS Report Redistributable and a local SQL database.

This is really not a candidate for a DC even if we ignore the best practice of not installing on a DC.  Furthermore WSUS should ideally automatically updated itself so you will find your DC restarting on an infrequent basis.  Not ideal.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

TCP
 
05.09.2008 at 10:11AM PDT, ID: 21534808
WSUS would be ok on a domain controller. We have several Small Business Servers running WSUS. There is a lot of customization and organization you can do with it. Pretty much everything I know about it I learned from playing around with it. Unfortunately I have not been able to find very good documentation on the features of WSUS. Good Luck.
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05.09.2008 at 10:16AM PDT, ID: 21534845
I ideal way to handle TheCapedPlodder's issues would be through Group Policy and seperating your servers from the rest of your clients PC's. Do not auto update servers as it will cause reboots. If you separate your severs from your PC's you can set different policies on your servers. It does use a SQL or Windows Internal Database and I would recommend using SQL Express 2005 over Windows Internal Database. You can install SQL Express then point your install of WSUS to the instance you installed. Other than that it is not a very resource intensive program.
 
05.09.2008 at 10:23AM PDT, ID: 21534903

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You can't get around the fact that WSUS should ideally automatically update itself.

In small environments where you use SBS and don't have budget for dedicated equipment then fair enough but in a larger space you should separate your services to maintain up-time.

Furthermore we use WSUS to patch over 500 servers and through intelligent use of Group Policy we implement patches as part of our standard maintenance cycle.

Our WSUS server is currently using 90GB of disk space.

If your DC's are important to you I would recommend placement elsewhere.   If you simply want to play with WSUS put Windows 2003/2008 on a PC and get your feet wet.
 
05.09.2008 at 10:43AM PDT, ID: 21535042
You can uncheck the box that says automatically approve updates to the WSUS product itself. Then it will not automatically update.
 
05.09.2008 at 01:59PM PDT, ID: 21536373

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Agreed, it won't but then you have a WSUS server that does not keep itself upto date which is a little bit self defeatist if that is your strategic patching platform.

I think this can be summarised in one of two ways.  If you have the budget for spare tin and intend to use WSUS strategically then buy a dedicated server for it.

If you don't plan on using WSUS permanently or you are currently undecided then install it on a spare desktop until you have evaluated.

Installing WSUS on a DC is the option of last resort for those environments that don't have the infrastructure to support it.  However I tend to find that in those environments WSUS is somewhat irrelevant anyway, just enable each device to update itself and leave your DC to perform its intended function.
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05.09.2008 at 02:31PM PDT, ID: 21536522
OK, I follow what both of you are saying. It can be done, but isn't really the ideal thing to do.

I'm going to keep this open for a little longer in case another expert wants to chim in. But thank you both for your comments so far.

 
 
05.10.2008 at 12:38AM PDT, ID: 21538140

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I have absolutely no issues with WSUS running on a DC, in fact, its barely noticeable, most of the time WSUS is fairly quite, it doesnt hog resources and does cause any greif, i run it on all my sites that only have single DC's....no issues at all
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05.16.2008 at 11:11AM PDT, ID: 21585086
For now I installed WSUS on my home server so I can play around with it a bit.

Thanks!
 
 
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