Question

To VoIP or not to VoIP

Asked by: Bert2005

Hi everyone,

I am 24 hours away from deciding on VoIP versus PBX. I like all of the features of VoIP and the configurability as well as the fact that communication technology seems to be moving in that direction. Price-wise it is about a wash either way.

I am setting up the LAN from scratch with Cat6 cables and with everything new. I will be using an Edgemark router and a Linksys SRW2024P 24-Port Gigabit Ethernet Switch. The data connection is Time-Warner cable with a promise of 2Mbs to 5Mbs down and anywhere from 768Kbs to 1Mbs up. I had the option of using Great Works Internet solo DSL which would be about the same. I am over 15,000 feet from the CO, so I was a little concerned about that. The phones I will be purchasing are the Aastra 480i.

I am just a little gun shy, not so much because of cost of the phones, but because of the 24-month contract. I would probably go with a two-year contract with Verizon as well for the traditional phones, but I am much more familiar with traditional phones than VoIP.

I realize you can't make my decision for me. I am just looking for some advice.

Thanks.

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2006-11-09 at 20:51:30ID22055743
Tags

edgemark

,

router

Topic

Voice Over IP

Participating Experts
2
Points
500
Comments
3

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. VoIP
    Dear Experts. What are some of the considerations an our organization should look at when moving from a traditional phone system to Voice over IP (VoIP)? I think that when we switch to VOIP we may have existing telephony folks that suddenly find themselves more dependent on ...
  2. Voip and pbx
    I have a swithcboard (pbx) to which my rewgular phone lines are connected. Can I connect VoIP lines? My VoIP lines are a black box (handy tone) that goes to the router and a regular phone. What is the basic way to connect the handy tone (voip) to the switch board. I want ...
  3. VoIP between 2 sites with analog PBX
    Hello all, we have 2 sites, let's say Site 1 and Site 2. Site1 is the main site with local PTT and we have a PBX that have analog lines internally. Only analog, no digital or IP possible. Site2 is a remote site with a wireless backhaul (perfect link). We want to have Site2 ...
  4. VOIP Systems for small businesses
    I'm in the computer business supporting small businesses. I have never used, installed, or maintained any kind of VOIP system. I'm familiar with the basic concepts but I do have several questions. If you can only answer one question or give some small suggestion, please do it...
  5. setting voip
    Hello, I have two voip adapters,all settings are successfully completed in both of them. both adapters are in my office connected to LAN and with traditional phones. for internet i have DSL and linksys ag241 modem. the problem is when i dial from one ph. to another SIP accou...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: grbladesPosted on 2006-11-10 at 02:13:41ID: 17913033

Personally I would go for a voip capable PBX and use standard E1/T1 lines out of the office for the phone calls. You get a more reliable connection that way and you dont have any issues with QOS.
That is basically what I did. We have an Asterisk server onsite and 40 GXP-2000 phones but external calls are sent over a E1 30 channel line. We have a dedicated 512K SDSL line also so that people traveling abroad can use a software voip client to connect to our PBX.

Bear in mind that if you are also going to send data over the internet connection then you will need QOS support on the router.

 

by: mikeleebrlaPosted on 2006-11-10 at 07:54:06ID: 17915094

we just upgraded from 10 PBX phone systems to ONE IP phone system which will save us tons of money and the $550,000 price of the system will pay for itself in less than two years.  It is a dream. No more messing with 10 disparate phone/voicemail systems. Just one IP phone server and one voicemail server, thats it (plus the secondaries for redundancy of course). We went with  100% cisco, pricey but worth it.

 

by: Bert2005Posted on 2006-11-10 at 08:23:17ID: 17915383

Thanks for the tips.

I think I am going to go traditional PBX for a year and then possibly switch to VoIP. There are a lot of factors including that this is a brand new office for pediatrics and has to be up and running. The porting may take 25 days, and the company who supplies the VoIP service hasn't returned my phone calls reliably. Ironically, I filled out the Letter of Authorization and nervously fed it into the fax machine, which was then "busy" for over four hours and never took the fax. When I emailed today about the fax, I was told to fax it on Monday.

This has nothing to do with technology, but I have a little problem when a service values your business so little that they can't even take a fax for three days. The head of the company told me this was a "bad time," to purchase because his wife was delivering a baby. I certainly understand that, but I need support 24/7 especially when I am starting up, and I can't worry about that.

I am going to go ahead and get the more expensive switch and justs use a Cisco PIX for my router. I guess that way when I do change over, I will just need the Edgemark and the phones, and I will be out the PBX phones, but I can always use a Cisco Router somewhere.

The other thing that bothered me about this company was that there is a new Edgemark coming out which will automtically switch your phone to the copper lines and is only about $100.00 more. But, it is coming out about two weeks after I need to be up and running. I made reference to the possibility of purchasing the old one and then switching to the newer one but got nowhere.

I spoke with a few companies who did business with them, and they were happy; but I get the feeling that if you have 50 to 500 phones, they are nice to you; but if you have only four phones, then maybe not.

Thanks for all the information. Do you think going with the $700+ switch makes sense when I probably only need a $300.00 switch? I am just hedging my bets if I switch.

Bert

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...