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Setting up VLANs for VoIP with a Netgear GS748T and Cisco IP Phones

Asked by: jmoser220

I have a Netgear GS748T and I am trying to set it up for VLANs to work with Cisco IP phones and my existing separate data provider before my VoIP provider comes to configure thier VoIP gateway and phones.

My enviroment is setup as follows:
- Business Cable modem to use for data traffic only
- Netgear Firewall used as a Gateway for the Cable modem
- Windows 2003 Server for DHCP and DNS
- Business DSL line for voice traffic (VoIP provider)
- Firewall / Gateway for VoIP (VoIP provider)
- Netgear GS748T Managed Switch

My VoIP provider has asked the VLAN 1 be used for data and VLAN 2 for voice.  The Cisco IP Phones will be tagged for VLAN 2.

My question is how do I setup the Netgear GS748T switch?  I know that I must have two 802.1Q VLANs, and that the uplink port for Cable must not be a member of the same VLAN as the uplink port for Voice and vice versa.  I am also assuming that the PVID of the uplink port for Voice should be set to 2 (with all others set to the default of 1).  Is this correct?  If so, I guess I need to know how the ports should be tagged (or untagged).  Do I tag all ports even if they do not have a phone on them?  Should I only tag the ports that have phones?  And how do the two uplinks work, do I tag both of those ports or just the one for voice traffic?

Thanks,
Jeff

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2006-12-20 at 12:43:29ID22099705
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Answers

 

by: grbladesPosted on 2006-12-21 at 01:10:42ID: 18179058

Leave all ports in the default VLAN1.
Define VLAN 2
Enable 802.1q trunking on all ports.
Add VLAN2 to the list of allowed VLANs permitted over the trunk.

That way any normal device connected to a port will use the default VLAN1. The phones will use 802.1q tagging and tag all the packets so that they go over VLAN2.

For the port which connects to the firewall (I am guessing this is what you are calling the uplink port) it will probably be best to set the native VLAN of this port to 2 and not enable 802.1q trunking on this port. That way there is no special configuration required on the firewall.

 

by: jmoser220Posted on 2006-12-21 at 05:17:38ID: 18179977

I understand the high level concepts of how this is supposed to work, but what I am looking for is specific instructions for how to do it on the Netgear switch I listed above.  I am assuming that the native VLAN of the port is what netgear refers to as the PVID, but how do I add VLAN2 to the list of allowed VLANs permitted over the trunk?  And how are the ports supposed to be tagged?

Please be specific to this exact switch.  Netgear does everything a little different, so general, high level concepts are not what I am looking for as a solution.

 

by: grbladesPosted on 2006-12-21 at 06:35:49ID: 18180544

I downloaded the manual from ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/gs748t_user_manual.pdf.
Page 13 onwards describes the process.

You need all ports except the one connected to the firewall set as PVID 1. The firewall port should be set to PVID 2.
For all ports apart from the firewall one you need to add tagged vlan 2.

 

by: jmoser220Posted on 2006-12-21 at 07:36:57ID: 18181037

Thank you much.  I will try it out and get back to you.

Just to note for anyone else that comes across this, that the manual on Netgear's site does describe 802.1q VLANs, however, they do not go into much configuration detail, and certainly do not discuss this particular situation where multiple VLANs are shared on the same ports and you are using more than one gateway or firewall.  This is the reason I was looking for clarification on their use of PVID and Tagging, because most other managed switches I've worked with do not do it this way, except for maybe Dell's managed line.

Also, there are two firewalls in this configuration, one for voice and one for data.  The firewall I am setting to PVID 2 is the VoIP gateway, because the phones are tagged for VLAN 2.

 

by: grbladesPosted on 2006-12-21 at 07:45:13ID: 18181097

Thats correct for the voip gateway firewall you just want the port to send/receive the voip traffic normally so you just set it to PVID 2.
For the non voice firewall just leave the port as default. i.e leave it set to PVID 1 and dont add a tagged VLAN 2 to it.

 

by: jmoser220Posted on 2006-12-27 at 17:23:29ID: 18205886

So the final working configuration is as follows:

1) Select 802.1q VLANs on the switch - this will remove the port based VLAN config
2) Add a second VLAN (PVID 2)
3) The switch port for the data uplink should not be a member of VLAN 2
4) The switch port for the voice uplink should be set to PVID 2
5) The switch port for the voice uplink should not be a member of VLAN 1
6) All ports that connect both IP phones and PCs, or just phones, should be Tagged in both VLANs - tagging a port in one VLAN tags it in both
7) All ports that do not connect IP phones should remain untagged, otherwise PCs and laptops may not function properly
8) The port for the voice uplink should not be tagged in VLAN 2

This config was tested and works successfully.

 

by: ohmErniePosted on 2008-07-22 at 12:40:58ID: 22062885

How do your phones get the appropriate default gateway?  Do you use DHCP? If so, how? I have this same switch and 2 default gateways, one for voice and one for data.

 

by: jmoser220Posted on 2008-07-22 at 15:19:59ID: 22064241

In my configuration the voice gateway is an edgemark router that has DHCP configured.  If your voice gateway does not have DHCP functionality then you will need to attach a server to your switch for DHCP and make sure the port it is connected to defaults to VLAN 2 and is not a member of VLAN 1, otherwise you are going to have 2 DHCP servers on the same VLAN and that will play hell with your network.

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