Question

Cisco Skinny (SCCP) or SIP?

Asked by: shaf81

Hello experts!

I'm involved with a small voip company and we offer customers with SIP based calling services. However in some countries likes UAE, Qatar, Oman etc SIP is totally blocked. The provider blocks the 5060 port and we send calls via some other port until that gets blocked. Sometimes they block the IP off and we have to try and open a new IP.

As an alternative I've been wondering if Cisco Skinny (SCCP) might be an option. Most of my customers are Softphone users and I found there are a few softphones the customers can use with Skinny.

I've never worked with Skinny and know nothing much about it. I have a few questions.

1) customers connect to the server from all parts of the globe. Is Skinny a light weight protocol (Like SIP) and would it be feasible to use skinny over the public internet?

2) what type of codec's does Skinny support?

3) In case the ISP blocks the SCCP port (2000), is skinny able to work on alternative ports?

4) Is there any company's out there which offer Hosted Call Manager services / Rent Call manager partitions / ports for me to test SCCP in blocked regions?

5) Does Cisco Call Manager have full support for Radius AAA so I can work with my existing Radius based billing?

Thats all i've got to ask :)

Rgds
Shaf

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2008-03-27 at 13:02:57ID23275450
Tags

Cisco / SIP

,

Cisco

,

Call Manager

Topics

Voice Over IP

,

IP Telephony

Participating Experts
3
Points
500
Comments
4

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. help with VOIP, SIP
    I am currently looking into using VOIP in our organisation. Ive been reading up and need some suggestions. One of the main things we need in multi-party confrencing. We would like to be able to do is make calls to people on pbx from sip/voip, we would actually like to go comp...
  2. What are outbound SIP Trunks?
    Hello, Can someone please answer the following 4 part question for me. Can someone tell me in detail: 1. What an outbound SIP trunk is? 2. How are they used? 3. How do I get SIP trunk service? 4. Where do I find sub-penny per minute pricing? I am very unclear on this whole ...
  3. SIP Library
    I'm looking for a SIP library (including some common VoIP codecs) with which I can create a softphone with little effort. Something that runs on both Windows and Linux would be cool. I've used OpenH323 before, it comes with a huge footprint but it is easy to use once you get...
  4. Cisci 7940 Skinny to SIP
    Hi All, We purchased a new VoIP server and the client insisted of using Cisco. Now we found out that Cisco only ships with their own protocol Skinny. This is not compatible with our VoIP server and we have to upgrade the firmware. We no longer have our agreement with Cisco ...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: grbladesPosted on 2008-03-27 at 13:15:25ID: 21225351

I would suggest you have a look at an asterisk (http://www.asterisk.org) based system as it supports the IAX2 protocol. IAX2 runs over a single UDP port with none of the problems associated with NAT that SIP has. IAX2 uses a standard port 4569 but this can be easily reconfigured and clients typically allow you to specify an alternate port to use. IAX2 uses all of the same codecs that SIP supports so you can esily configure an Asterisk box to sit and translate between IAX2 and SIP if you wish with very little overhead as it doesnt have to transcode the audio.

 

by: cscocscoPosted on 2008-03-27 at 22:09:30ID: 21228173

1. Yes Skinny is a light protocol.  Skinny provides richer functionality than SIP.  It's also much more secure.
2. Skinny supports all of the telephony codecs in use.
3. Yes you can change the port, configurable in Call Manager.
4. I'm in the Western part of the US.  There are not any companies out here that offer a hosted Call Manager based telephony service.  I don't know if others exist.
5. Not sure about the RADIUS question, but Call Manager has the billing function built in (Call Detail Record).

 

by: jdechiaroPosted on 2008-03-31 at 10:24:19ID: 21247330

The main thing to consider is if you wish to use non-cisco phones or soft-clients then you need to use SIP.  SCCP it is Cisco proprietary and so you must run all Cisco.

 

by: cscocscoPosted on 2008-03-31 at 19:03:56ID: 21250706

There are non-Cisco soft clients that use SCCP.  Here's one example: http://www.ipblue.com/

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...