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Difference between site_perl libs and vendor_perl libs

Asked by: poijoi

Hi,

I have a set of libraries duplicated in the site_perl and vendor_perl directory. The ones I want to use are in vendor_perl (installed with an rpm) but perl seems to be using the site_perl ones... What is the difference between the 2? what is the impact of moving the vendor_perl ones to site_perl?

Thanks,
PJ

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by: SmartIntelPosted on 2009-06-22 at 18:27:45ID: 24688177

you can indicate which directory to use by

use lib '/path/to/vender_dir';

 

by: poijoiPosted on 2009-06-22 at 18:37:14ID: 24688211

I did that and still when running the scripts, references to the site_perl libraries.

 

by: SmartIntelPosted on 2009-06-22 at 18:49:50ID: 24688243

Otherwise you can do

unshift @INC, '/apth/to/vender_dir';

 

by: Adam314Posted on 2009-06-22 at 21:52:54ID: 24688852

What is your @INC?  Run "perl -V" (note the capital V) to find out.

The difference - they are just 2 different directories.  There is no inherent difference in them.  It's possible they could have different modules, or different versions of the same module.

 

by: poijoiPosted on 2009-06-23 at 13:33:08ID: 24695940

I removed the perl_site library and made sure that the path to perl_site was in @INC, but I get and error stating that there isn't a loadable object for modeule NetSNMP::default_store

Can't locate loadable object for module NetSNMP::default_store in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/SNMP.pm line 16
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/SNMP.pm line 16.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/SNMP.pm line 16.
Compilation failed in require at /shaw/neteye/perl_scripts/cmtsmonitord.pl line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /shaw/neteye/perl_scripts/cmtsmonitord.pl line 9.


The module exists tho:

$ ls -l /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/NetSNMP/
total 52
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Jun 22 17:50 agent
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 13194 Jun 30  2006 agent.pm
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  2877 Jun 30  2006 ASN.pm
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  9295 Jun 30  2006 default_store.pm
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  5344 Jun 30  2006 OID.pm
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  7335 Jun 30  2006 TrapReceiver.pm

And:

/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/NetSNMP/agent/default_store/default_store.so



 @INC:
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
    /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
    /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8
                                              
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by: Adam314Posted on 2009-06-23 at 14:14:55ID: 24696365

>>I removed the perl_site library and made sure that the path to perl_site was in @INC
What did you remove?  The entire directory?  Did you remove it from @INC, or from the file system?

Perl will search @INC in the order specified to look for any modules.  If you want a particular directory to be search first, it needs to be higher in the @INC.  You don't need to remove files from the filesystem.
To change @INC:
1) Use the PERL5LIB environment variable
2) Use the -I command line option
3) Use the "use lib" statement in your code

 

by: poijoiPosted on 2009-06-23 at 17:57:25ID: 24697519

Hi Adam314,

#3, Do you mean I should use 'use lib /path/to/lib'  when doing the include?

I've been trying to avoid that if it's the case. I don't want to make the script dependent on this environment setup.

yes, I removed the files from teh system, but it seems like perl is refusing to use the other library:

"Can't locate loadable object for module NetSNMP::default_store in @INC "

Even though the path to this module is in @INC.

Why? :(


PJ

 

by: Adam314Posted on 2009-06-23 at 19:41:25ID: 24697872

For #3: Yes, you would add a "use lib /path/to/lib;" statement to your script.  The script would be dependent on this setup though.

Perl will use the module in the first directory of @INC that it finds the module.  If you've removed it from one directory and it's not working, then I'm guessing either:
1) some part of the module is still in the first directory, but not all of it - which is causing the problem
2) No part of the module is in the first directory, but all parts are not in the second directory.

For problem 1 - you would need to remove all pieces of the module, including the autoload files.
For problem 2 - Install the module by following the module's installation guide (typically make;make test;make install)

 

by: poijoiPosted on 2009-06-24 at 08:31:09ID: 24702106

Hi Adam314,

Thanks for your reply, these and the others to my previous questions have been very helpful.

I used an rpm to install the module, that's what got installed in perl_vendor but the other one is not owned by any package, so I just removed the folder that contained the module but I'm not sure if there is more that I need to clean up.

Could you please let me know what other directories/files I should be removing?


Thanks,
PJ

 

by: Adam314Posted on 2009-06-24 at 08:59:48ID: 24702486

For a module, there is going to be a main .pm file, then possibly a directory with other files, and possibly a directory in auto with more files.

So, for Some::Module, you need to remove:
    $lib/Some/Module.pm
    $lib/Some/Module/
    $lib/auto/Some/Module/
Where $lib is your library directory.  Those ending with a slash / indicate a directory.

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