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W2k RAS inactivity timeout not working

Asked by: markt9

I have a windows 2000 server with a modem on com1 set to accept incomming connections.  My users dial in and access a  IIS application through TCP/IP.  My problem is my users forget to hang up and sit there tying up the phone line for hours at a time even though I have set the inactivity time out to 3 minutes.  It seems the dialin user is sending packets every so often even if they are not doing anything which defeats the timeout.

I'd like some way to kick a user off if they are not meeting a certain amount of throughput.  For example, it would be normal for them to sit for 2 minutes, then work, then sit, then work, but if the traffic was less than say 1/2 meg in 10 minutes I want to disconnect them.

I have not been able to find a working solution, but it sure seem there must be a property of the RAS connecton showing connection time and byte count and a method I could use to disconnect.  I would think this is a common problem for ISPs.

Right now all users logon with the same name and password to the RAS and I don't want to limit their time per day, just kick them off for too much "idle" time even if they are pinging every minute.

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2002-11-28 at 07:05:41ID20410277
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Windows NT Networking

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by: kiranghagPosted on 2002-12-03 at 19:41:35ID: 7529192

get a sniffer and check what packets are being generated by the client.
some software have keep_alive option which keep sending some packets at intervals to avoid disconnection.
you can check for that using a sniffer.
commview is available which allows you to sniff nt dial up connections.
have a look
HTH

 

by: markt9Posted on 2002-12-03 at 20:22:49ID: 7529279

Any recommendations for how to sniff my own box?     Its not like I can put a linux box up with tcpdump since the W2K box has the modem on com1? CommView is $250 and says NIC or DIALUP, not RAS.

Even if I could identify the packets from the client, so what?  I can't necessarly control the clients (there are many and outside of my administration)  They probably have spyware from Kazaa trying to phone home every 2 minutes for all I know.  I need a way for the HOST to dump the caller for mostly inactive or better yet not enough throughput to continue.  I can't accept "only if the client is really quiet for 5 minutes".

You did get me thinking....why not set up a linux box for the modem with a NIC to the w2k box....I'm sure I could do this with a cron and polling the /dev/com1.....and with a old pc less than $250 even if I hire a linux geek to do it for me.  I'll give points to someone that can provide working scripts for redhat 7.3 or 8.0 for a box with 2 nics and 2 modems for dialin ip that is routed/forwarded to a w2kbox.  Assume my w2k is 192.168.1.222/255.255.255.0 and nothing else is on the w2k's network.....I'd expect a solution complete with the iptables script to qualify...

but seriously I was looking for a WinNt Net. Expert to tell me how to do this without resorting to a seperate open source box.  Maybe someone can suggest a better place to ask this question.  How could anybody be a ISP running microsoft if you can't handle this common problem?  (answer, isp's are not running microsoft).  Seems like asking the local Linux LUG for a contract job and pieceing together a old pc might be the better choice......

 

by: kiranghagPosted on 2002-12-04 at 04:48:29ID: 7530618

u need not have linux to sniff ur own box.
get commview from http://www.tamos.com/download/

 

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