Hi
This is SBS 2008 Premium and it allows member servers. We already have a Standard 2008 server on the domain, it's just the pesky NT4 we're have trouble with
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Joining a NT4 server to a SBS 2008 premium domain
Hello
I am having trouble trying to get an NT4 server joined / logging into a SBS 2008 premium domain.
The NT4 seems to join the domain ok but when I try to login with the domain admin user name and password I get the error message, The system cannot log you on now because the domain {DomainName} is not available
Any help would be appreciated because Im going around for the 10th time!!.
Regards
George
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MSR, that is a myth. You can have as many servers in an SBS domain, including DCs, as you are licensed for.
http://blogs.technet.com/s
The first place to start as far as coexistence is concerned is here:
http://forums.techarena.in
which leads to here:
http://social.microsoft.co
The major concern is the disabling of the older forms of NTLM authentication that is required by NT4, and thus the root of the error.
Philip
Philip, thank you for your reply.
Having read through the links you provided, and finding other references, some progress has been made in that we can now (apparently) log the SBS2008 Domain Administrator onto the NT4 stand alone server and all, at first, seemed ok. Much joy!
However, it soon became apparent that all was not well as the NT4 servers Local Administrators Group showed SBS2008\Unknown Account instead of SBS2008\Domain Admin.
If this was removed we lost admin rights. If we added SBS2008\Domain Admin before removing SBS2008\Unknown Account we were ok but re-entering the Administrators Group membership screen we saw the entry had gone back to SBS2008\Unknown Account.
Perhaps needless to say, trying to give any SBS2008 Domain User or Group rights to anything on the NT4 failed giving one message or another.
The plot thickens?? More help would be very much appreciated.
Regards
George
Hi MSR, The biggest issue in my mind is SBS2008s preset Policies. Minefield! I guess all will become clear with time but right now we dont have enough of that.
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Hello Philip.
It does need to be domain connected. It's running MS Transaction Server linking an Oracle DB with software written many years ago. It requires accessing via a security group to which the users must be a member. Now this may be changeable but the authors and expertise have long since gone I wouldnt have a clue how to change it.
It just has to last a few more months unfortunately.
I had thought of a separate 2003 domain which I know it will work and arrange trusts but I would prefer to crack this as were so close.
Regards to both of you.
George
You can forget about setting up a separate domain; SBS does NOT support trusts.
Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on the W2k8 machine, and that the Computer Browser service is running. Install a WINS server on the W2k8 machine, and let your clients (including the W2k8) point to it.
Then pay special attention to the security policies, especially the Lan Manager authentication level, and the policy "Allow cryptography algorithms compatible with Windows NT 4.0".
Check here foe details:
When a Windows NT 4.0-based computer tries to use the NETLOGON service to establish a security channel to a Windows Server 2008-based domain controller, the operation may fail
http://support.microsoft.c
Client, service, and program incompatibilities that may occur when you modify security settings and user rights assignments
http://support.microsoft.c
Modify Default Security Policies on Windows Server 2008-Based Domain Controllers
http://technet.microsoft.c
Known Issues When Upgrading to Windows Server 2008
http://technet.microsoft.c
Thanks for you input oBdA.
Having made further enquiries, it has been decided to drop the legacy server with immediate effect so no further time can be allotted. I'm a little disappointed as I felt the answer was not too far away.
Parts of your suggestions (http://support.microsoft.
As no further testing can take place, I cannot test your other links.
Thank you again for your response.
George
EE Moderators: I think this question should be abandoned due to my inability to test replies.
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by: MSRamrodPosted on 2009-03-13 at 17:16:14ID: 23884792
Unless SBS changed in 2008, from the 2003 version, you won't ever get a small businees server to communicate with another server. That's what sucks about the SBS versions of server. Hopefully the 08 version is fixed, otherwise you are out of luck.