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How could I improve the logon performance from WINXP workstation to the WIN2K server?

Asked by: lijunguo

How could I improve the logon performance from WINXP workstation to the server?

I run a WIN2K server with Active Directory. There are 20 work stations,  a few workstations are WIN 2K, the others are WINXP. All data are stored on the server. I log on from any of the WIN2K workstations to the server, it only takes me 40 seconds, but if I log on from any of WINXP workstations to the server, it takes me about 3 minutes. If I log on to any of WINXP workstations, it only takes me about 40 seconds. How could I improve the logon performance from WINXP workstation to the server?

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by: stevenlewisPosted on 2004-01-17 at 19:41:14ID: 10139096

USING ROAMING PROFILES?
exclude items from the roaming profile

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y default, the History, Local Settings, Temp, and Temporary Internet Files folders are excluded from a user's profile. This means that these folders are not stored on the network and do not follow the user from PC to PC.

You can exclude addition folders by ADDing the Default Domain Policy to the MMC and setting Exclude

directories in roaming profile, by navigating through User Configuration\Administrative

Templates\System\Logon/Logoff.

There is no way to use this policy to include the folders that are excluded by default.

The results of the GPO are stored in the registry at:

HKEY_CURRENT_UsER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System\ExcludeProfileDirs. The

ExcludeProfileDirs value name is a REG_SZ data type, that stores the additional excluded folders in

Folder-name[;Folder-name...] format.

If you subsequently disable the policy, or set it to Not configured, Group Policy deletes the ExcludeProfileDirs

value name.

NOTE: If you add ExcludeProfileDirs, you must also add it at:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy

Objects\LocalUser\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System

---------------------

excluding folders from roaming profiles.

In Windows 2000, the default value of ExcludeProfileDirs at

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon is Local

Settings;Temporary Internet Files;History;Temp;Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook.

The Exclude directories in roaming profile Group Policy at User Configuration\Administrative

Templates\System\Logon/Logoff lets you add to the list of folders which are excluded from your roaming profile.

The additional folders that you configure are stored in the ExcludeProfileDirs value name, as a string variable

(REG_SZ), at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System.

NOTE: You could reduce the number of Days to keep pages in history on the General tab of Internet Options,

and check the Empty temporary Internet Files when browser is closed box on the Advanced tab.

3712 » Excluded profile folders are being uploaded to your Windows 2000 profile?

Even though you have excluded some directories from your profile (tips 3868 and 3543), these excluded folders are

uploaded to your profile when you log off?

When Windows 2000 retrieves the ExcludeProfileDirs value, it writes the data to Ntuser.ini. If the data exceeds 260

characters, a buffer overflow occurs and the entire string is considered to be NULL.

To resolve the issue, limit the total length of the exclusion list to 260 characters.

--------------------------------

http://www.jsiinc.com/subg/tip3400/rh3496.htm

496 » You MUST disable the cache option for Offline Files on a roaming profile share?

If you do not disable the cache option for Offline Files on a user profile share, the profile will become unstable, as

both the Offline Files and roaming profile attempt to synchronize the files in the profile.

The cache option is SMB share based. If you enable the cache option on a share, and roaming profiles are below that

share, Offline Files caches files in the profile.

NOTE: Whenever possible, store roaming profiles and offline-enabled shares on different servers.

To resolve the problem:

Create a separate share for user profiles and disable the cache option on the new share by opening a CMD prompt and

typing:

net share \\Server\Sharename /cache:no

You can use Windows Explorer to disable the cache by right-clicking the shared folder and press Properties. On the

Sharing tab, press the Caching button and clear the Allow caching of files in this folder box


 

by: lijunguoPosted on 2004-01-17 at 21:06:35ID: 10139253

Yes, I'm USING ROAMING PROFILES.  Most of the users need to log on from any workstations. What items should I exclude from the roaming profile and it won't affect their work?

One more thing, I deleted a user from Active Directory, but the user's roaming profile is still there, I tried to delete it,  there was a pop up dialogue:
cannnot delete Launch Outlook Express.lnk: Access is denied. The source file may be in use.

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2004-01-17 at 21:39:15ID: 10139343

sorry about the caps, sometimes my finger slips and gets the lock

>>What items should I exclude from the roaming profile and it won't affect their work
that you will have to decide, as you know your users better than I would
as far as the outlook express link, try taking owndership of it and then see if you can delete it

 

by: lijunguoPosted on 2004-01-17 at 22:36:21ID: 10139496

1. tried taking owndership but not working, still the same popup dialogue
2. I checked default value of ExcludeProfileDirs in file registry is:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon is Local
Settings;Temporary Internet Files;History;Temp;

Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook is missing. Because it's not set for most users, it's set only for a few users in ntuser.ini. I tested on one user, and tried to reduce the file size to below 260 bytes. it's 258 now.

I also  checked the "Empty temporary Internet Files when browser is closed"  box on the Advanced tab.

Because there is only one server, I could not store roaming profiles and offline-enabled shares on different servers.

The log on is still slow. over 2 minutes.

 

by: juliancrawfordPosted on 2004-01-18 at 02:44:16ID: 10139864

This link also covers Speeding up Roaming Profiles on a WinXp/2000 network..
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Microsoft_Network/Q_20382784.html

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2004-01-18 at 06:37:30ID: 10140331

there is a utility to unlick the in use file. I'm tryng to find it now (it's on a rescource kit if I remember correctly)

 

by: lijunguoPosted on 2004-01-19 at 00:00:47ID: 10144745

Thanks a lot.  

 

by: kristinawPosted on 2004-01-20 at 13:36:15ID: 10158885

So, if you log on to a Win2K box as yourself, it takes about 40 seconds, if you log onto any WinXP box it takes 3 minutes? This doesn't sound like a roaming profile issue to me since it's platform specific. Are the WinXP boxes fairly new? Did the problem just start? What type of network equipment do you have, Cisco? If so, is portfast enabled on all ports on your switch?

If the XP boxes are fairly new, check and see if they came with standard 10/100 nics or the new 10/100/1000 nics. We've had trouble with the 10/100/1000 nics autonegotiating and have to manually set their speed/duplex at both ends.

HTH,
Kris.

 

by: lijunguoPosted on 2004-01-22 at 19:45:37ID: 10181160

XP boxes are fairly new. it only takes no more than 30 seconds to log on to the local computer. but to the server, it's terrible slow.
The problem has been existing, I just took this job a few weeks ago.
the switch is: SURECOM 24 PORT 10/100M Ethernet smart switch
 the nic modle is:
Realtek RTL 8139 PCI Fast Ethernet NIC

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2004-01-22 at 19:48:32ID: 10181174

any slow down browsing folders on the servers?

 

by: lijunguoPosted on 2004-01-23 at 16:36:39ID: 10188958

no slow down browsing folders on the servers. running backup softwares to back up data to the tape drives is also very fast.

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2004-01-23 at 17:14:39ID: 10189158

OK, the network is not the bottleneck
try this set a static ip on one machine, and then connect and see if the speed improves

 

by: lijunguoPosted on 2004-01-25 at 19:51:23ID: 10198810

I set a static ip on one machine, and connect to the server, the speed is the same as before. I also forgot to mention that log off speed is very fast . (not because of setting a static ip)

 

by: kristinawPosted on 2004-01-26 at 13:15:29ID: 10204140

have you tried hard coding the speed settings on the switch and NIC? checked to see if a newer NIC driver is available?

 

by: lijunguoPosted on 2004-01-30 at 16:17:19ID: 10239891

I tried, but it's still not working

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