Question

Am receiving a valid IP but not getting internet access

Asked by: milltechtga

Hi,

I have a computer that is on a network of on average about 15 computers. Currently this particular computer is giving me a valid ip address (192.168.0.27) but it won't connect to the internet at all.

I have tried to ping the gateway and get no response, however no other computers on the network are having the same issue. Of course being that I can't ping the gateway I can't ping any external machines like a google box.

This computer has had a fresh format and reinstall of windows and is running windows XP home. I have installed the relevant drivers for the LAN  and it's doing it to me.

I have a different port on our switch incase that was faulty and still no joy.

When I check ipconfig /all everything looks alright but yet I still can't get internet access or even local network access.

I'm running out of ideas and can't figure this one out.

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2009-03-01 at 13:20:56ID24188461
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Answers

 

by: thinkpads_userPosted on 2009-03-01 at 13:33:09ID: 23769840

Look in Internet Explorer -> Tools -> Internet Options -> Connections -> LAN Settings and make sure all options are unchecked.

Also try temporarily disabling the firewall to see if that is causing problems.
.... ThinkPads_User

 

by: NicoJuicyPosted on 2009-03-01 at 13:36:07ID: 23769854

Perhaps this could help

Switch the ports with a working computer and test if this all works.

If it still won't work, possible there is still something wrong with the computer drivers.

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 13:45:42ID: 23769890

Internet explorers LAN settings are all ok, and I had tried connecting the computer to a port I know is working and still no joy.

Thanks for the responses

 

by: thinkpads_userPosted on 2009-03-01 at 14:05:30ID: 23769976

Did you try disabling the firewall? Also, when you say you installed the relevant drivers, did you get the correct and most current driver for the Network Card? Have you tried a repair to TCP/IP

Correct drivers, correct TCP/IP, correct settings in IE, and correct firewall settings will usually provide good internet access. .... ThinkPads_User

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 14:13:16ID: 23770016

I did try disable the firewall which didn't help.

After posting my last message I did think about the drivers I installed. I had trouble finding the correct drivers. I need drivers for a Compaq Presario S3120AN. The Compaq and HP websites don't seem to list network drivers for this model as far as I could tell.
It has an nforce2 chipset, however the drivers off the nvidia website didn't seem to install drivers appropriate for it. I tried going directly to the motherboard manufacturers website in hopes that would work. It installed drivers which windows associated with the network adaptor however I'm starting to think that it could still be wrong. I do know that compaq can modify boards from standard and market them as their own so I'm wondering if that's what they've done in this case.

Once again the computer is a Compaq Presario S3120AN.
The motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-LA.
If anyone knows the correct driver I should be using and where to get it I could try that and see if it's just the wrong drivers.

 

by: gerlisPosted on 2009-03-01 at 14:18:11ID: 23770030

I presume that since this PC is running XP Home it is not on a server-based (domain) network?

You need XP Pro for that.

However if it is a Workgroup then 10 concurrent connections is the XP limit (either Home or Pro).

How is the ip address being allocated? Via a DHCP router? If so what happens if you manually put in the LAN settings: i.e. ip address, subnet mask, gateway (router?) and DNS?

Do you have any other firewall software on the PC? Such as Norton Internet Security or McAfee?

Might be a DNS issue.

Try ipconfig /release  then ipconfig /renew, then try ipconfig /flushdns

If on a server-based network, have you been allocating fixed ip's from the server DHCP reservations? There is a known issue with this.

 

by: thinkpads_userPosted on 2009-03-01 at 14:21:44ID: 23770050

I thought about the XP Home issue (I dislike and distrust XP Home entirely). However I did not post this because the OP said it worked once. .... T

 

by: Cayman21Posted on 2009-03-01 at 14:22:41ID: 23770054

I agree with gerlis, a DNS issue sounds likely.  Maybe even an IP Conflict.

If it's not essential that your network stays up 100%, I'd restart the router.

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 14:27:07ID: 23770081

We are on a server based network running Windows server 2003 small business. It is set up to automatically assign IP addresses to our machines through a switch. As far as I know it hasn't been set up to allocate fixed IP's from the server DHCP reservations.

The problem remains the same if I try to manually enter LAN settings.

Currently there is only windows firewall on this PC, not even any antivirus yet and as posted before, I have shut windows firewall off and the problem still occurs.

I have tried the ipconfig commands and still no help.

Thanks for all the responses so far.

 

by: gerlisPosted on 2009-03-01 at 14:51:21ID: 23770216

Hmmm... are there any other XP Home machines on this network?

I assume that the DNS must therefore also be allocated via the router/switch?

Have you tried manually putting inthe ip and DNS settings in Windows (Manage Network Connections) to force the settings?

ip address, subnet mask, gateway (router ip) and DNS (must be the real outside DNS as found ih the router)?

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:04:57ID: 23770281

There are a couple of other machines running XP home on the network and they are having no problems.

I have tried to force the settings and still no help.

Unfortunately I'm not the server maintainer so I'm not 100% sure how it has been set up in regards to the DNS etc.

From my understanding the network is as follows:
We have the internet coming in via a broadband modem/router. That is fed into a caching server. We have a local file and exchange server along with a changing number of computers, in between 5 and around 15 of them.

 

by: NicoJuicyPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:08:15ID: 23770293

Try these commands in start - run - cmd

ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /renew

They will clear your dns tables, their is a small change it will help, but a small chance is better than none :)

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:10:00ID: 23770301

Have tried those ipconfig commands already and had no luck.

Thanks for the suggestions

 

by: gerlisPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:14:49ID: 23770327

OK, seems like you have tried all the obvious things.

If it doesn't work with forced settings and other XP Home PCs are alright, then I suspect you may be right and it is network hardware.

Another thought occurred to me. Might be spyware/virus? If none is on the machine "...not even any antivirus yet...". You could have been infected from the moment this was put onto the network and hence with access to the Internet.

You'll need to download these from another machine and copy them onto this PC and run them

Download from www.filehippo.com

CCleaner
ad-aware
spybot
MS Defender

From http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware

All Windows updates inc. Windows SP3

Load some anti-virus/firewall asap!



 

by: gerlisPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:21:33ID: 23770358

If it is hardware, I'd suggest that if you cannot match the drivers for the network card which, I assume from your description, is on the motherboard, surface mounted, then buy and install a new network card. Disable the existing one from within Windows.

Here in the UK network cards are just few pounds (a few dollars?).

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:23:37ID: 23770366

I could be wrong but I don't believe that it's a virus or spyware because I have done a format/reinstall of windows twice on this machine and it's not worked either time. Unless there is a PC on our network that is infected an targeting local machines I guess :S

I'm still holding out on the drivers being the problem though. I just wish I could say I definitely have the right drivers.

The only reason I hadn't installed the an antivirus was because I normally grab it from our file server but obviously we can't get onto it at the moment so I was trying to get that problem sorted first :S

I will get an antivirus and some spyware cleaners on the pc and run a couple scans in case though

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:31:55ID: 23770400

Thanks for the suggestion of a new network card gerlis. I don't know why I didn't think to test that before. I put a testing network card in and the network/internet works fine now. I just would like to know whether the problem is the driver or the hardware. If it's just the driver then I'd like to get the right one rather then put in a network card.

I guess it's pretty much narrowed down to either hardware or the drivers.

But yes sorry for not making it clear before, it is an integrated network adaptor on the motherboard.

 

by: gerlisPosted on 2009-03-01 at 15:46:39ID: 23770464

Yaay! Glad you now have some success.

For some years now we have always taken the view with clients that with the time spent trying to search, and try out, different drivers for a piece of hardware, it is cheaper & quicker to install a new one!

The hardware is so inexpensive these days.

See:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c00063027

Look at the "Onboard LAN section" needs drivers for a Realtek 8201BL LAN PHY (Physical Layer Protocol). Google it and you'll find many download sites, but don't waste too much time!

(Do I see the points heading my way?) :-)

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 16:03:48ID: 23770531

I think I can call this one case closed for now. I do agree it's not worth me wasting too much more time on it. I have a strong feeling that the hardware is at fault in this case so I think I'll have to run with that if I don't find the driver soon enough.

The points are all yours gerlis. Thanks for the help guys.

 

by: thinkpads_userPosted on 2009-03-01 at 16:08:57ID: 23770555

My first posts involved drivers (hardware/hardware related) and a lot of effort on my part as well as by gerlis. Next time, you should consider effort put in by others, especially when they have you on the right track. .... T

 

by: milltechtgaPosted on 2009-03-01 at 16:16:23ID: 23770594

I apologize to thinkpads_user, you're right and should have got acknowledgement. I will be much more careful in future with how I allocate the points.

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