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Cisco Aironet 1300 series Wireless Bridge

Asked by: reysrivera

I have 2 Cisco Aironet 1300. 1st is setup for root-bridge and the 2nd is setup for non-root bridge. I use a test QCheck to test the throughtput and I'm only getting 3 mbps. Should I be getting more?? My setup on Cisco Aironet 1300 series is pretty basic or default.

Also, the external antena is perfectly align to the other building. Any ideas?

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by: Matt_T_hatPosted on 2008-02-28 at 09:11:22ID: 21005870

You are getting a lot of output errors.  I would try the following things (in no specific order).  

* Get the units physically closer if possible.
* Use different channels that are at least 2 numbers different (for example 1 and 3 or 2 and 4)
* check for power lines, microwaves, lead or other metal linings in walls or other objects in the LOS between units.
* Check for high power units (microwave ovens, cell phone aerials, bluetooth devices etc) within range of the units.
* running each unit as an AP and testing the speed through (there is always the slim chance that you have a duff unit).
* checking silly things like antenna which sometimes cause problems if not perfectly verticle (I have no idea why this is as this is not my field).

Let us know which of these you are able to eliminate and if this reduces the error rate.

 

by: Darr247Posted on 2008-02-28 at 20:05:56ID: 21010754

Actually, 775084 / 69414397 = 0.0111 or well under 2%. That's not an excessive amount of errors, in my opinion.

When you say you're getting 3 mb/s throughput, is that just on your LAN and between the APs?
Or between APs and then out to the WAN (Internet?) ?

Are there any 802.11b devices connected while you're running these tests?

B/G channels should be 5 channels apart to prevent overlap. e.g. channels 1, 6 and 11 have no overlap; channels 4 and 9 have no overlap. But you have 2 APs talking to each other - you WANT them on the same channel... you might do a site survey and see if there are any rogue APs nearby using channels 1 through 8, since you're on channel 4. Actually, if you're transmitting outside you should try to stay on 9, 10 or 11.

What's the clearance zone around the line of sight?
What's the height of the antennae and the distance between them?
And it appears your power is turned up too high for the gain level you have.
Refer to http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/1300/12.2_15_JA/configuration/guide/o13chan.html for recommendations.

 

by: reysriveraPosted on 2008-03-03 at 09:28:17ID: 21033708

Darr247:

I change my channel to 10 and downgrade my power to 20 CCK and 10 OFDM. I have some good new, I gain 12 mb on my output on QCheck tools.

I realy don't know the clearance zome around the line of sight? How do I accomplish this?

The height of the antena is 30 feet high and the distance between them is about 1.1 km.

 

by: Darr247Posted on 2008-03-03 at 10:20:36ID: 21034136

The towers should be at least 23 feet (7m) taller than the highest obstruction between them to get the 60% clearance in the First Fresnel Zone. 30 feet on both ends for a 1.1km distance should give you better than 75% of the 39 foot radius First Fresnel Zone for 2.4GHz B/G signals, after deducting the curvature of the earth for that distance. So unless you have buildings between the 2 towers, that should be good.

Did you determine if there were any 802.11b devices connected while you were doing the tests?  That could pull the whole LAN down to their speed while they were talking.

And was that just on your LAN and between the APs?
Or between APs and then out to the WAN (Internet?) ?

 

by: reysriveraPosted on 2008-03-03 at 10:33:52ID: 21034277

There are no building in between the two towers.

There are no 802.11b devices that connect to this APs. Client PCs connect to HP Procurve switch to Cisco 1300 wireless bridge and then goes to the other side of the building Cisco 1300 wireless bridge to HP switch to client PCs. How can I tell if there are other 802.11b trying to connect to my AP? Is there free tools that I can install and monitor?

Yes, just LAN and between APs.

 

by: Darr247Posted on 2008-03-03 at 16:52:54ID: 21037335

OK... sounds like a nice setup. :-)

I would say there's NOT an 11b device interferring, since the APs are in bridging mode and there's no other wireless APs... for some reason I thought you had other wireless devices on both ends.  Re-reading your messages I'm not sure now where I got that idea. However, 10/100/1000 wired networks can exhibit the same behavior, under certain circumstances.

So, after a few more tweaks, if the rates don't go up in the next round of testing, you should reduce to one computer hooked up on each end to do your throughput tests with, and eliminate the switches one at a time too, if possible. I doubt there's anything wrong with the switches, but in the interest of completeness...

On the Aironets, try changing the Basic rate to something higher than 1 now... say, 24.

And possibly optimize the radio for Throughput instead of Default.

I take it you're doing the testing after hours or on the weekend?

What's the status screen (like you posted in your first message) look like now?

 

by: reysriveraPosted on 2008-03-04 at 08:57:14ID: 21042705

When you say basic rate, are you referring to the "data rates"? and you wan me to disable from 1-18 and only enable 24, 36, 48 & 54? Please confirn.

 

by: Darr247Posted on 2008-03-04 at 13:01:45ID: 21045074

No... don't disable them. Sorry... I was going back to 802.11b interference again. i.e. Using the 'default' radio settings, the data rates 1, 2, 5.5, 6, 11, 12, and 24 are set to Basic, and data rates 9, 18, 36, 48, and 54 are Enabled. Those data rate settings allow both 802.11b and 802.11g client devices to associate to the access point/bridge's 802.11g radio. If you change 1, 2, 5.5, and 6 to Enabled instead of Basic it will prevent rogue 11b devices from connecting. They don't need to be set to Disabled - just take them off Basic. That's probably not going to make any difference, though... unless the bridges are not secured there's probably no rogue 11b devices connecting and pulling the 11g radios down to 11b speeds.

Other tweaks to look at to improve throughput are the Distance command (optimizes the timout delay on the Root Bridge; doesn't need to be set on the the non-root), and enabling Short Slot Time.

 

by: reysriveraPosted on 2008-03-04 at 14:03:29ID: 21045595

What's timeout delay? Short Slot time had been enable.

 

by: Darr247Posted on 2008-03-04 at 16:39:39ID: 21046722

It's a function of the distance between the units, the speed of light (as in electromagnetic radiation) through atmosphere/copper, and solid-state switching delay. If you don't set it to the actual distance, it assumes 99km between them, which would add about 0.0006 seconds to that delay time compared to 1km. If you never had an error or dropped packet, that setting shouldn't make a difference... but your original post did indicate some errors were being recorded.

See http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/1300/12.2_15_JA/configuration/guide/o13rf.html#wp1053605

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