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Modem Connection Problem

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I have an E-con wireless modem. The problem is; there is only one device can connect to net through this device. For ex. at home only my laptop can connect and the other laptop or the mobile phones could not. or at office only my boss can connect while my laptop could not.

I am waiting for the solutions..!!  

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Answers

 

by: zer0se7enPosted on 2009-01-10 at 05:14:46ID: 23343565

1. Check the antenna (signal quality).
2. Try loading the default settings for the modem.
3. If it doesn't help => contact the seller of the modem.

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-10 at 05:28:58ID: 23343640

"one device can connect to net through this device"

Only one device at a time or only your device and no other?

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-10 at 05:34:43ID: 23343664

Only one device, mine or somebody else does not matter

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-10 at 05:52:16ID: 23343718

Sorry still not sure ... so your's is the ONLY machine that connects?

What model of ECon Router/modem are you using?

Fixed IP addresses or DHCP?

Are the other devices used on other wireless networks?

Which WiFi security protocol?

Let's start by getting your other laptop to connect.

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-10 at 06:26:48ID: 23343821

No, mine is not the only machine that connects. There are others..!!  But the thing is there is only one machine that connects either at home or at office or at anywhere that I connect my Econ wireless modem.
The model is Econ - AWL -1000g
Fixed IP addresses or DHCP? Actually I do not know
Wifi Security WPA
Are the other devices used on other wireless networks? No

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-10 at 07:15:29ID: 23343970

Can you log into the routers admin console?

it's probably on http://10.0.0.2

Then go to the LAN configuration page

Check the range of IP addresses available and if DHCP is switched on

Next to WAN status to see if there are any rules set about allowing new wireless devices to connect without admin approval.

Before we go much further can you rate how confident you are on home networking? If you are unsure what you are doing then it might be easier to get you to post screenshots from your Router.

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-10 at 07:51:12ID: 23344076

ok,
the IP adress is 10.0.0.2 could not see any range..!!
Dhcp Server is enabled, Dhcp adress pool selection is System Allocated
Dhcp gateway Selection is Automatic
Dhcp Relay is disabled

Wan settings: Virtual Circuit enabled, Bridge and IGMP is disabled, Encapsulation PPPOE LLC
Dhcp Client disabled
Mac Spoofing disabled

I am not an expert but I know smt on home networking

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-10 at 08:12:36ID: 23344154

So it should look something like this:

Make sure you have enough IP addresses and multiple users are allowed.

Can you connect another PC with Ethernet Cable at the same time as your laptop is wirelessly connected?

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-10 at 08:24:57ID: 23344192

Yes I can connect by the Lan Connection with cable.

There are enogh adress as in your pic.
Multi-User is selected

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-10 at 08:38:01ID: 23344240

OK then we are looking at a wireless problem - either with the setup or physical. You can connect wirelessly so we know the wireless components of the router are OK.

Concentrating on the other laptop (what is the OS on this?)

- Can it can see the network but not connect?

- Are you CERTAIN the WPA credentials on it are correct? (Hex letters in UPPER or lower case to match the router setting, etc)

- Are the networking settings looking for DHCP or using fixed IP?

If all of those are correct then either there is software preventing connection or your router requires you to authenticate new wireless connections.

I don't have access to the ECon configuration page for wireless connections (& the only manual I can find on the Net seems to be Turkish) so you'll need to look in the wireless configuration to see if there is an option for this (- if you can either link me to a manual or screenshot the relevant pages that could help as well) - also it's worth checking that the other laptop can connect to a WPA network if you have somewhere you could test.

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-10 at 08:53:15ID: 23344285

The Laptop Os is Win Xp Service pack 2,
- It can see the modem on the wireless list and I enter the pass and it remains "waiting to connect the network" and it stayed like this for a whlie.
- Are you CERTAIN the WPA credentials on it are correct? (Hex letters in UPPER or lower case to match the router setting, etc)     If you mean the pass, I am sure I entered the right pass. What hex letters??
- Are the networking settings looking for DHCP or using fixed IP? I think no fixed IP, where can I check?

I tested the laptop with another wireless modem and it works.

What do you need to check what pages do you want me to screenshot?

Thanks for your help, btw

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-10 at 09:19:08ID: 23344377

To get to the Network Settings in XP

Start > Control Panel (Classic View) > Network Connections

Right click on the Wireless connection and choose Properties

In the Wireless Connection Properties window

Go to the General Tab highlight Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Hit the Properties button

Check all the settings are "Obtain automatically"

Go to the Wireless Properties Tab

Highlight the network you are trying to connect to

Choose Properties

(This won't work if you are using a third party WiFi controller (like the Intel drivers that are standard on Dell for example)

The Network Key is the "WPA Credentials" I'm talking about in the post above - this needs to match the Key on the Router and whther you are connecting via Windows or a third party driver you need to match the case so 1E3F4B will connect but 1e3f4b won't if the router is expecting upper case characters.

As far as screen shots go have a look at the page(s) dealing with your wireless configuration on the router, there should be a page that deals with WPA setup and around there should be a setting that either allows new devices to connect to your network automatically or when you allow. If there is something like that set it to automatic. Otherwise post the wireless configuration screen (hide your Key) & I'll try to guide you - like I said I've no access to this so am having to guess!

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-11 at 03:24:20ID: 23347809

Also check for MAC filtering settings - this has the same effect - the wireless computer has to be registered with the router in order to connect - it'll probably be under 'Security' or something similar.

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-11 at 04:38:37ID: 23348014

I tried something last night but could achieve a solution. I have two laptops at home. When I reset the modem and want to connect with Laptop 1 first then Laptop 2 can not connect to the modem. Then I reset the modem again and this time want to connect with Laptop 2 first then Laptop 1 can not connect to the modem. And I can connect to internet with these 2 laptops anywhere else, so there is nothing wrong with the laptops. I suppose, it is a problem with a setting in modem.
I attached the all screenshots I got, hope will help, pics are shown in ms paint better.

Thanks again..!!

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-11 at 05:32:27ID: 23348182

On the WPA page - do you have RADIUS enabled?

This is exactly the behavior a RADIUS server would cause, if both the laptops have identical RADIUS certificate credentials I'm sure the router will only allow the first to connect.

If you feel safe doing it try disconnecting the router from the Net (physically pulling the wire) and then switching off WPA altogether then seeing if you can get both laptops on at the same time.

Then switch the security back on!

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-11 at 05:45:27ID: 23348223

Wpa pre-shared key enabled, no Wpa raidus. When I disable the WPA, it is still same. Only one device can get an access

 

by: LucFPosted on 2009-01-11 at 13:48:55ID: 23349861

Hi querten,

Going back to your initial question, you say "I have an E-con wireless modem.". In your post at http:#23344076 you mention "Wan settings: Virtual Circuit enabled, Bridge and IGMP is disabled, Encapsulation PPPOE LLC"

As bridging seems to be enabled even though you mention is not, what is the IP adress on your workstation when it's connected? (I'm comming to this idea as you can only connect a single computer)
If it's either 10.X.X.X, 172.X.X.X or 192.168.X.X you're running on a public IP address and as your provider will give you only one IP address you're running into this issue. In case you do have an address within one of those ranges, does your modem/router have a functionality for one-to-one NAT? Or something similar.

To avoid this, do not use bridging mode and let your router (which is most likely running inside your modem) handle NAT. This will cause internal computers to run on an internal address which is translated to your WAN IP by the router. Or at least disable One-to-one NATting on the device.

Regards,

LucF

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-11 at 14:06:45ID: 23349920

I can access to my modem setup page on 10.0.0.2 and when I check, in Wan setup page Bridge is disabled, And on Nat page Nat is enabled and Dynamic Napt is chosen as Nat mode, I attached the screenshots above, If you can check the pics, maybe you couls see what is wrong?

Thanks

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-12 at 14:01:48ID: 23357922

Any Help??

 

by: LucFPosted on 2009-01-13 at 12:57:34ID: 23367203

Not yet, please allow a few days while I ask a collegue who previously worked for that provider. I surely hope he has an answer as appart from the BGP settings I don't see anything off in your setup. (as-in, I don't know why BGP is even enabled in your settings, but I can't see how they influence the connection)

In the mean time, can you post "ipconfig /all" information of two computers which are connected to the gateway?

Regards,

LucF

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-14 at 09:57:39ID: 23375427

Lucf,
How can i copy it from command prompt??

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2009-01-14 at 11:42:49ID: 23376615

ipconfig /all > c:\ipconfig.txt
then open C:\ipconfig.txt to cut & paste

 

by: LucFPosted on 2009-01-14 at 12:43:46ID: 23377260

;o)

That should do the trick.

LucF

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-15 at 11:46:19ID: 23386933

This is code of the Laptop1 that can connect to wireless network through modem
Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : u***

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-********



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RT73 USB Wireless LAN Card

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-**********

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.13

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2

        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2

        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 15 Ocak 2009 Per_embe 21:42:44

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 16 Ocak 2009 Cuma 21:42:44

 

by: LucFPosted on 2009-01-15 at 12:02:15ID: 23387134

Hi querten,

The MAC address is not sensitive information however I see you're masking it anyways.
For that one, just make sure you don't have a duplicate MAC on another computer which you're trying to connect at the same time.
The same applies to the hostname and IP address by the way.

I haven't heard back yet from my collegue, but as soon as I do I'll let you know if he found anything in the settings.

LucF

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-15 at 12:22:17ID: 23387372

I checked both, but the wirelless Macs and IPs are different

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-20 at 07:43:30ID: 23421060

Any news??

 

by: LucFPosted on 2009-01-20 at 12:32:11ID: 23423984

Hi querten,

Actually yes, I do have news. And at the same time I don't.

My collegue mentioned the same BGP settings I did, which should not be enabled but mainly because they're not needed.
I suggest you to disable them. For the rest he didn't find anything wrong, appart from the things which can't be checked like passwords.

However, I'm wondering about picture number 17. It lists in the Bridge MAC table only one address. Is this from the "Learned MAC table" link on the left side of the configuration page? To make it easier, what is the exact brand and model router you're using?

Appart from that I'm wondering if you still have a PPP connector on your computers. As-in do you maybe initiate a connection to the provider from your computers instead of from your gateway? If this is the case, indeed only one computer can connect to the internet as your provider will only allow one active connection.
Reading through your comment at http:#a23386933 I don't think this is the case, but just to be sure please check Start => Run => ncpa.cpl if you have any other than your normal LAN connections listed.

Regards,

LucF

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-20 at 12:40:11ID: 23424074

Lucf,
How can I disable BGP?
The model is Econ - AWL -1000g

querten

 

by: LucFPosted on 2009-01-20 at 12:46:38ID: 23424134

Hi querten,

On your picture number 18 disable "Border Gateway"
I'll see if I can find more info on the router you're using, it's not very common in my area.

Regards,

LucF

 

by: quertenPosted on 2009-01-20 at 13:55:05ID: 23424742

I did change the Border Gateway but did not work..!!
Any other solution??

 

by: LucFPosted on 2009-01-21 at 13:05:08ID: 23433978

querten,

In the previous comments there were quite some questions/suggestions which you haven't answered/commented on. All of which might give more information on why you're seeing this issue. My suggestion therefor is to read back and try all suggestions and see what happens, and of course let us know the outcome.

LucF

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