Question

ubuntu 9.10 install with xp doesn't boot

Asked by: andycrofts

I have just installed ubuntu 9.10 alongside xp he and everything seemed to go ok.

On restart the grub menu comes up. Just before it displays I can see the word error but not enough time to read anything else.

The grub menu offers ububtu, ubuntu safe, two mem tests and xp he.

either of the ubuntus result in

error no such device : < some long series of characters and numbers>

xp boots ok

Help please


TIA

BTW I am pretty inexperienced with linux

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2009-10-31 at 15:53:04ID24861255
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Answers

 

by: amitnepalPosted on 2009-10-31 at 16:04:50ID: 25711954

Hi,
  You can try to press Pause Break at the time that screen displays, and then you can note the error. If you could post the error , that might be helpful. Also do you have a SCSI or an IDE hard drive ?

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-10-31 at 16:10:14ID: 25711975

Thanks for quick response

I'll try to hit pause but it is very quick.

Drive is IDE


 

by: amitnepalPosted on 2009-10-31 at 16:15:55ID: 25711996

Hi,
ok, mean while you can also try :

press A when you see the grub menu, and post the parameters that you see there. There should be something like :

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda9
initrd /boot/initrd-version.img

If the drive is IDE , then /dev/hda should be fine if you have one disk drive. But you might try with

/dev/hda1 , 2 ,3 ,4 until you find the actual drive that works, and once it works, you can modify it permanently.

 

To  edit that you need to press E when you see the grub menu.

Thanks

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-10-31 at 16:18:53ID: 25712005

it is the same message

error no such device : xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx

looks like hexadecimal I guess the exact string is not needed to solve

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-10-31 at 16:20:01ID: 25712006

Just seen post above. I'll give that a try.

Back soon

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-10-31 at 16:45:13ID: 25712072

"A" didn't do anything

"E" shows me

recordfail=1
if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail ; fi
set quiet=1
insmod ext2
set root=(hdo,5)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set fd4d4e24-1baf-4942-9d74-0169f0a1d\6fd
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=fd4d4e24-1baf-4942-9d74-0169f0a1d ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic


 

by: WolfherePosted on 2009-10-31 at 17:16:08ID: 25712150

Along side, as in another partition? You used the partition editor from the trial boot of Ubuntu (before the actual install)? You can boot from the live CD and start over. When installing, manually set partitions (partition editor) and select the current Ubuntu partition to blow away. Now you can format the mount point (/), /home and a swap file area.

How much space did you allow for the new partitions?

 

by: amitnepalPosted on 2009-10-31 at 18:04:59ID: 25712259

Hi,
  You see the line set root=(hd0,5) . This determines your root partition for booting the ubuntu. When you press E in the Grub menu , you can use up arrow and down arrow key to position to that line. Then you can change the statement.

make it like :

set root=(hd0,0)  put this 0 to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 upto 8 to try.

When you change press B to boot with changed paramenter. Once you are done wth the number, if you can boot successfully , then you need to edit /etc/grub.conf file to put the number permanently.

Hope this helps.

Thank You

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-01 at 01:21:05ID: 25712997

Thanks I'll give it a try this evening (gmt)

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-01 at 11:21:57ID: 25714985

>set root=(hd0,0)  put this 0 to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 upto 8 to try.


tried 0-9 same result each time


>Along side, as in another partition?
yes

>You used the partition editor from the trial boot of Ubuntu (before the actual install)?
the partitons were created during install

>You can boot from the live CD and start over. When installing, manually set partitions (partition editor) >and select the current Ubuntu partition to blow away.
Is it obvious what to do when reinstalling?

>Now you can format the mount point (/), /home and a swap file area.
don't know what you mean here. The first time I just let the install process do it all

>How much space did you allow for the new partitions?

30 gb for ubuntu. I don't recall being asked about home and swap

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-01 at 15:03:16ID: 25716075

Tried reinstall and did manual partition. Set mount for 30gb partition to / . swap partition 1.3 gb

Still the same problem.

Is disk/partition size an issue?

windows partition is 120gb

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-01 at 15:04:56ID: 25716083

mount point / or /home?

 

by: amitnepalPosted on 2009-11-01 at 23:20:08ID: 25717523

Well disk size should not be an issue.

Use this partition scheme ;

/ boot = 100mb
/swap = 2 *RAM SIze
/home = 500mb
/  = as much you want.

it should be ok....

Thanks

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-02 at 02:27:59ID: 25718263

OK I am a bit stuck now

I tried the change to GRUB I have reinstalled and manually done the partitioning and mount (/ and swap)

None of this has made any difference.

Any more suggestions?

 

by: amitnepalPosted on 2009-11-02 at 07:27:30ID: 25720206

You still have problem booting ?

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-02 at 07:31:39ID: 25720245

yes. same problem.

 

by: WolfherePosted on 2009-11-02 at 08:24:23ID: 25720773

At this point, my suggestion is to remove the grub menu and its resultant menu.lst. You do this with the Windows XP boot disk and drop to a dos prompt. Type 'fixmbr' without the single quotes. Then type 'exit'.  REboot (removing the WinXP CD) and test to make sure your XP will mount.
 
If it does, reboot to the Ubuntu LiveCD. (Do the try Ubuntu first option). Under System>Administration there is the Partition Editor. Run this. Once the partition editor has found all your partitions, you should see a scroll on the upper right. You can view your 'hard drives' consecutively. My guess is, your Windows XP is on the first partition (sda - if sata or hda if ide). If this is the case, select the sda2 or hda2 whichever has the Ubuntu. Select each of the partitions you created Ubuntu including the swap and hit the delete key. Once you hit the apply, your have all your unpartitioned space. If you need help with using partition Editor (gparted) there is a guide here - http://gparted.sourceforge.net/docs/help-manual/C/gparted_manual.html

Reboot to your WindowsXP installation and go to this web site -
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm - and print out all the related pages. This is a pretty good guide to dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu. Follow the steps sequentially.

Having said all that, it might be better to use the Partition Editor to 'grow' your Windows XP partition by about 30 gigs and install Ubuntu into Windows via Wubi. That way, you can try out Ubuntu from within Windows without the mess of repartitioning. (http://download.maketecheasier.com/MTE_ubuntu904_ins.pdf). This is a down-loadable pdf with wubi install instructions for Windows users. If you figure everything out, follow the instructions above on the Dual Boot option. You could even leave the wubi install for testing purposes. Once you are comfortable in Ubuntu, you can remove the Wubi via Add/Remove programs :)

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-02 at 08:31:39ID: 25720831

>install Ubuntu into Windows via Wubi.

Does this work well or is it more of a trial?

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-02 at 12:18:22ID: 25723297

Well I don't know what the last thing I did last night was but I turned on tonight and left it and it booted into ubuntu just fine.


 

by: amitnepalPosted on 2009-11-02 at 12:44:10ID: 25723506

Great , any ways, i am happy you are done.

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-03 at 01:19:34ID: 25727185

I ended up with partitions \ , \home and swap. All larger than I intended. I don't remember sizing them like this.

 

by: andycroftsPosted on 2009-11-03 at 01:24:03ID: 31648466

Thanks all for your help

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