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RELIABLE way to find out that a service was restarted

Asked by: seva

On Windows OS (XP, Srv2003) I'd like to find a RELIABLE way to determine if
a service was started not the first time after the system booted up.
That is, I'd like to determine if the service was restarted, or died and was started later.

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Asked On
2007-03-16 at 14:36:38ID22455011
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Microsoft Windows Operating Systems

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Answers

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-03-16 at 14:45:30ID: 18738113

Other than checking the event logs?

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-03-16 at 14:46:35ID: 18738118

The system or app log should indicate that a service terminated.
You've also got the recovery options available from the service details - and that can also be logged, or if you want something specific, you can set the action on a restart to do something other than restart it...

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-16 at 15:39:27ID: 18738340

Sorry, I mean a programmatic way, without the event log, etc.
For example, something like creating a system-wide object that will saty after the service terminates,
but will not persist between system reboots.

 

by: jkrPosted on 2007-03-16 at 20:41:41ID: 18739237

>>For example, something like creating a system-wide object that will saty after
>>the service terminates, but will not persist between system reboots.

Spawn a small process (that does nothing but 'Sleep()') when your service has initialized successfully the 1st time and check for its existance on later occasions. Everything else (mutexes, events) is prone to be cleaned up by the system upon exit of the service.

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-17 at 23:25:50ID: 18742683

I thought of that one, but it can't qualify as a reliable way.
The process can be terminated.

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-03-18 at 06:11:20ID: 18743206

Is it logging that it's stopped in the event logs?
You could run a wmi script that could easily recall when it was stopped, and if it's currently running an there's been no reboot, it was obviously restarted...

 

by: jkrPosted on 2007-03-18 at 08:53:08ID: 18743649

>>The process can be terminated.

Not that easily. It will run under 'LocalSystem', so not even the defaults of an admin account can kill it.

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:00:01ID: 18750673

>> Not that easily. It will run under 'LocalSystem', so not even the defaults of an admin account can kill it.

I don't think I have trouble killing any process on the system, doesn't matter if it is run as
LocalSystem or not.
Anyway, a process is not what I am looking for.

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:01:08ID: 18750682

>> Is it logging that it's stopped in the event logs?
No, unfortunately it doesn't utilize event logs.

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:10:20ID: 18750749

I guess I could use a named pipe for that.

When the sevice starts the first time after the reboot, the pipe is empty,
so it can recognize that by reading the pipe and receiving EOF.
If it is empty, the service can write a byte into the pipe.

When the service starts the next time, it will read that byte and determine
that this is not the first time it is started.

I don't know though if the written byte will persist after the system reboot.

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:19:15ID: 18750824

Sorry, I didn't know that named pipes are also delted when the last handle is closed.
So my idea won't work.

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:27:24ID: 18750890

Makes sense that they would be.
What service is this - a home grown one?  

 

by: jkrPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:32:15ID: 18750946

>>Sorry, I didn't know that named pipes are also delted when the last handle is
>> closed.

That's what I meant by "Everything else (mutexes, events) is prone to be cleaned up by the system upon exit of the service."

Anyway, try killing a service when logged in as an admin. It won't work, unless you manually enable 'SeDebugPrivilege'.

But, another idea - why don't you create a registry key with 'REG_OPTION_VOLATILE'? These will be removed when the system reboots:

REG_OPTION_VOLATILE

This key is volatile; the information is stored in memory and is not preserved when the system is restarted. The RegSaveKey function does not save volatile keys. This flag is ignored if the key already exists

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:52:48ID: 18751118

>> What service is this - a home grown one?  

I guess by homegrown you mean non-commercial or personal fun project.
No, it is not such.

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-19 at 12:58:49ID: 18751166

>> why don't you create a registry key with 'REG_OPTION_VOLATILE'?

Sounds like a great idea.
Let me discuss it with the developer.

 

by: sevaPosted on 2007-03-20 at 01:02:00ID: 18754591

Thanks for the great answer, and thanks to others for participating!

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