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XP won't boot. Safemode won't load, reboots

Asked by: kdubendorf

I have an HP nx7400 XP Professional notebook that won't boot.   Normally I'd just reload it but there is an application installed that will be almost impossible to get back.
XP comes up to the HP wallpaper before login and goes no further.   CTL-ALT-Delete doesn't do anything.   When I boot in safemood, the computer just reboots to the F8 window.  No form of Safe Mode is working.  I have scanned for viruses and spyware using the XP Universal Boot CD and I have taken the disk out of the laptop, installed it in a desktop and run malware bytes.  I found one file ic:\windows\system32\login.exe that Malwarebytes reported as a trojan and removed.   This didn't change the boot behavior.  At this point I don't believe that there is an extensive infection in this computer.  ( We have been running SpySweeper w Antivirus)

I am considering trying to treat this as though the registry is corrupted;   Copy over the original system registry files (I think there are 5) and then do a System Restore once XP is running again.    Any suggestions on other alternatives?

I've tried using an XP CD to start the Recovery Console but that didn't work since the XP CD didn't recognize the nx7400 disk controller.  Is there a way I can get this beast into recovery console easily?

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2009-10-19 at 10:44:52ID24824421
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Answers

 

by: HainKurtPosted on 2009-10-19 at 10:50:27ID: 25607356

if you can boot it somehow, run this

sfc /scannow

to recover system files...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310747

 

by: efusionPosted on 2009-10-19 at 10:54:48ID: 25607399

You will need to download the DOS drivers form HP website, unpack them on a floppy disk and reboot with the windows CD, then Press F6 when to load the 3rd party drivers (it will say Press F6 down at the screen on the blue setup screen).

This seems to be the driver you will need: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=1847094&prodNameId=1847095&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=8&mode=2&swItem=ob-39535-1

 

by: aligigiPosted on 2009-10-19 at 11:04:25ID: 25607499

Hi,
You could feed it the sata driver using F6 and go to console, but somehow I don't think you have a floppy drive :)
Why don't you take out the hard drive and connect it to a desktop computer and get your data or run checkdisk on it? Your notebook should have a sata drive that is compatible with desktop computers, you just plug it in.
Also you can try to boot from a livecd like BartPE, but I think the easyest way is to yank the hard drive out and stick it in another computer.

 

by: mikelfritzPosted on 2009-10-19 at 11:06:11ID: 25607523

You could put the disk back in the desktop and copy a registry backup.

make a backup of these on the laptop HD:
\windows\system32\config\SAM
\windows\system32\config\SECURITY
\windows\system32\config\SYSTEM
\windows\system32\config\DEFAULT
\windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE

Then copy the files from a restore point.  The files would be under \system volume information  and then _restore{blah,blah,blah} and then RP folders then snapshot.  Sort by date and pick one that goes back far enough.  One folder on my machine looks like this:
C:\System Volume Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP336\snapshot

You would copy
_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE to \windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE
_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SAM to \windows\system32\config\SAM
_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SECURITY to \windows\system32\config\SECURITY
_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SYSTEM to \windows\system32\config\SYSTEM
_REGISTRY_USER_.DEFAULT to \windows\system32\config\DEFAULT

To access "\system volume information" you need to have folder views set to show hidden and system files and then remove read only attributes from the folder.

If none of those restore points works you could try to copy the base registry files in place.  Copy the 5 files from \windows\repair to \windows\system32\config  - The downside to this is none of your programs will have registry entries.

 

by: kdubendorfPosted on 2009-10-19 at 11:33:29ID: 25607757

Thanks for your quick repsonses:

HainKurt - Great suggestion but I can't get this laptop to boot to a recovery console or SafeMode with DOS prompot.

efusion - I'm afraid this might be my only option.  It's not pretty but HP doesn't seem to give me the ability to do a recovery console load any other way.

aliqiqi - I did take out the hard drive as you suggested to run the Malwarebytes scan.  The computer that I put it in didn't pick up any other problems.  Would checkdisk do anything else for me?   I did try using a BartPE like disk in the Univeral Boot CD. ( I guess BartPE is the proper name for it).

mikelfritz - thanks.   that's a good idea.  your approach would get me around the recovery console issue.   Do you think this would work?  I could also backup the original files if I ever wanted to restore it to the condition it was in.   Just out of curiousity does this sound like a windows registry issue to you???

 

by: flubbsterPosted on 2009-10-19 at 11:34:59ID: 25607766

I think the easiest way is for you to download and create a ubcdwin cd. This will allow you to boot into a windows interface and do a system restore function.

http://ubcd4win.com/

 

by: aligigiPosted on 2009-10-19 at 11:37:44ID: 25607788

Yes, checkdisk could help you if you have a filesystem error caused by unproper shutdown, virus etc...

 

by: mikelfritzPosted on 2009-10-19 at 11:42:48ID: 25607826

Sounds like it may be a registry problem.  You could first try putting the reg files from \windows\repair in place - that will give a very clean registry and should prove if it is a reg problem.  If it works then do it again and pick a restore point as explained above.

 

by: HainKurtPosted on 2009-10-19 at 13:43:56ID: 25608842

 

by: HainKurtPosted on 2009-10-19 at 17:57:56ID: 25610230

thanks, just logged in to leave you a message to remove that message...

I should be more careful...

thanks...

 

by: HainKurtPosted on 2009-10-19 at 18:01:24ID: 25610251

and you should give us to ability to modify our own posts!... this is very important, sometimes we post something with lots of syntax error, spelling mistakes, and it wastes all our time to correct those mistakes by posting again again again...

 

by: jackiemanPosted on 2009-10-20 at 03:20:30ID: 25612545

I have helped to fix such problem before for a friend of mine.

You need to press F10 when the laptop start and go to the BIOS.

In this BIOS, there is a setting telling whether your disc controller is in normal mode and ahci mode. I do not remember which mode is correct, but as there is only two options. Change the option to another value. Press F10 to save and exit the BIOS.

You should be able to enter "System Recovery Console" after making the above change in BIOS.

 

by: kdubendorfPosted on 2009-10-21 at 23:28:57ID: 25631282

Tried several restore points all failed, but the oldest one so I was eventually able to keep all of the applications.  Once Windows was back I ran additional scans and pulled off about 5 files infected with Trojans (qtupdate.exe was probably the one causing the trouble).   Thank you all for your help.

 

by: mikelfritzPosted on 2009-10-22 at 05:16:12ID: 25633164

Now that it's clean you should make a backup of the registry files and place them elsewhere for later use since many of these bad things will also infect your old restore points.

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