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Prevent EFS files from showing up in file share

Asked by: Rhubarb

All,

I think this should be a fairly simple fix, I have laptop users using EFS to protect their data. This is working well for us and I'm happy with it.

However, when they return to the building and copy EFS encrypted files back to the file server, they remain EFS encrypted. Which is a problem, as the main reason for putting them on the file server (beyond backups, etc) is to allow all others in their department access to the files.

Is there anyway I can have EFS files silently decrypted when copied to the network share? (It's mapped as a network drive by the logon script).

I know EFS does this whenever the destination does not support EFS, such as FAT, anyway to enforce it in this for the file shares?

Thanks for any ideas!

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by: mkbeanPosted on 2005-08-15 at 10:25:23ID: 14676224

This is not possible to do.  When you copy an EFS file to a FAT partition it not only uses its EFS attributes but it also loses all NTFS attributes which usually is not a good idea.

Windows XP and above have a version of EFS that supports multiple users.  You have to have a key for all the users that you want to view the encrypted files though.

Brian

 

by: RhubarbPosted on 2005-08-15 at 13:22:37ID: 14677794

Sorry, the FAT example was merely to illustrate that silent decryption of EFS encrypted files when moved was possible - I'm certainly not intending to make the file servers FAT based!

I had a look at the group EFS when this all began, but it's clunky and hard work - frankly unmanageable for us given the rate some of the departments add and remove temps, contractors, etc.

More over, I'd simply also like to avoid EFS encryption being used on the file server as it makes recovery by IT staff tiresome, as we have to fetch the DRA key, import, decrypt, etc and makes backups difficult.

Is there really no setting, registry key, policy object, etc, that can be set to simply deny the use of EFS on certain disks, folders, shares, etc?

 

by: mkbeanPosted on 2005-08-15 at 17:17:58ID: 14679224

This is a setting that configured via the file system and thus it can't be stopped on just one machine.

Brian

 

by: RhubarbPosted on 2005-08-16 at 01:25:40ID: 14680889

I've just followed the guide from here:

http://www.petri.co.il/disable_efs_in_windows_xp_2003.htm

And it seems to do the job - make a local policy object that disables EFS and as such can be done on a machine by machine basis.

I must confess, I've not tried this on the file servers yet - just a spare work station running XP - but it's almost exactly what I want. Copy an EFS encrypted file over the network to a file share and it loses its encryption. The only hitch is you currently get a warning that it is going to be unencrypted but you can click "Ignore All" to silence that.

Any thoughts on why I shouldn't apply this to the files servers? Any ideas on suppressing that warning?

 

by: mkbeanPosted on 2005-08-16 at 05:33:54ID: 14681903

If this is done then I would be careful that users don't move the files or folders.  When that happens they will lose the encryption on their local machines.  As long as they copy it to this machien with this policy it seems OK.

Brian

 

by: RhubarbPosted on 2005-08-16 at 06:58:49ID: 14682655

Sorry, I don't follow, I understand that moving from the EFS laptop to the file server will remove encryption - that's ideal (to allow group sharing).

But, moving from the file server back to an EFS encrypted laptop will receive the local policy (EFS allowed) and obey the parent folder's NTFS settings (EFS on). So the files will be re-encrypted - also ideal (to keep data that leaves the building encrypted).

No?

 

by: mkbeanPosted on 2005-08-16 at 07:06:41ID: 14682747

You are correct.  I just wanted to make sure that is what you wanted.  It will lose it's encryption when copied to the server and when moved back to the laptop the local EFS policy will kick in and encrypt it.

Brian

 

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