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Resize partition on Windows 2003 server

Asked by: mvvinod

Hi all,
   I'm looking for software like partition magic which i can use to resize partition on Windows 2003 server. Partition magic doesnt support 2003 OS. Basiclly i have 2 partitions on RAID 5. C: is only 6GB which is already running out of space and D: is 24GB out of which atleast 60% is FREE.

I have a single domain controller on this network and dont want to take the risk of backing up and reinstalling windows after repartitioning....

So i'm looking for software which can hot resize windows 2003 partition and split the available space equally.....

I thought acronis has a software that support 2003 but now when i look at their site, windows 2003 is not listed as supported OS.

Any suggestions as to what software can reliably do this is recommended....I'm not looking to pay $1000 for this...I'm looking for software around $100....

Thank you all,
Vinod.

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2006-02-09 at 15:26:36ID21730995
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Answers

 

by: harleyjdPosted on 2006-02-09 at 15:32:14ID: 15917892

Ghost won't do it hot, but it will do it offline. Ghost to a spare HDD, then ghost it back as a larger (or smaller) partition.

Ghost doesn't support Dynamic disks - that just means that it will turn your dynamic disks back into basic disks, and your simple volumes back into primary partitions.

 

 

by: leewPosted on 2006-02-09 at 15:35:17ID: 15917901

Ghost has to be able to recognize the RAID or it won't help anything

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-09 at 15:50:01ID: 15917989

I do not want to do it offline.... because i dont trust it 100% since i've had several problems with it... And if i have to take a backup and then also ghost it and attempt it, its 2 much time for the customer to pay me...

Its also a old server, and the client doesnt have much money right now to spend. So doing this for 8 hours is not an option...

I'm looking for a hot resize solution where i start it, log in after 3-4 hours and check and see if its done....

Thank you,
Vinod.

 

by: rjropesPosted on 2006-02-09 at 15:53:19ID: 15918011

I would like to point you to this link

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Windows_Server_2003/Q_21730995.html

which appears slightly higher up in the page under 'time tested solutions'

richard

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-09 at 15:57:41ID: 15918039

You link points back to my question itself..

Vinod.

 

by: rjropesPosted on 2006-02-09 at 15:59:25ID: 15918051

oops sorry will try again

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Windows_Server_2003/Q_20861878.html

try that one - it has a load of links to products available

richard

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-09 at 16:09:55ID: 15918113

Among these software that i've selected, do you which is more reliable and worked?? Coz my server is my DC also....

Partition Manager 7 Professional
Partition Commander
BootIT.

Also in Partition Manager it says it supports hot resize (upwards). What does that mean???? Can i not reduce the size of a parition if i have free space??

Vinod.

 

by: rjropesPosted on 2006-02-09 at 16:13:29ID: 15918132

Sorry was just reading the post earlier, thought it would be good for you.

I haven't had any experience with any of them just thought that it would be a handy link as someone else has already done a load of leg work in it.

I was looking at volume manager by powerquest/symantec earlier on this week but that says windows 2000 not windows 2003, but does all on the fly. Not sure whether it is readily available or supported for 2003, but may be worth a phone call. It is however quite an expensive product I think.

Richard

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-09 at 16:18:25ID: 15918169

I dont think i have any bad sectors on the current disk. But do i have to run a diskcheck before doing the resizing or it shouldnt be a problem ??

Vinod.

 

by: lazarus98Posted on 2006-02-09 at 16:25:28ID: 15918204

I've used Paragon's Partition Manager more than a few times without a problem on my 2003 Raided Servers. You might take a look at that.

 

by: harleyjdPosted on 2006-02-09 at 17:20:18ID: 15918587

Ghost has never failed to see a RAID array for me. Adaptec, Dell Perc and HP Netraid have all worked, leew.

Vinod, if you are serious about this you won't do it on a production server while it's online. There are too many risks.

Laz's suggestion may work, and it should come in under your budget, but I'd only do that after taking a ghost image anyway. I'm just scared of trashing the whole thing, I guess. I've never had a screwup with Ghost...

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-09 at 17:27:49ID: 15918676

Harley,
  I checked Norton ghost specs and it does not have Windows server 2003 as supported OS....

Also i am going to take a backup of the server before resizing and i'm going to do it in the weekend and for this customer entire weekend downtime is acceptable...

Vinod.

 

by: harleyjdPosted on 2006-02-09 at 17:40:53ID: 15918770

Ghost 7.5 works, and is supported by Win2000 and WinXp.

I don't think you will find anything that Officially supports Win2003 Server in your price range, as it is a licensing issue - everyone wants you to pay more for "enterprise" products.

That's why all those things you looked at say they don't support it - not because they can't but because they want more money from you. They might disable the functionality but there would be no technical reason it doesn't work, fundamentally there is no major difference between an XP NTFS partition and a Win2003 NTFS partition.


 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-09 at 17:45:14ID: 15918790

I've tried installing one of the ghost version (cant remember which), but it just would say its not compatible and quit...

Partition Manager says they officially support 2003...

Although i know that its NTFS parition no matter what the operating system is, i would still be comfortable using product that says it supports 2003 rather than the one that does not say it supports it..

Vinod

 

by: tatwPosted on 2006-02-09 at 18:18:02ID: 15918934

I have used Symantec VolumeManager (Well it is just the server verion partition magic). I think it suits your situation.
You may also try diskpart which is a free tool from MS.  It is built on every XP machine. You may try and familiar with the function and syntax on a PC first.

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-09 at 19:23:27ID: 15919185

tatw,
  Symantec Volume manager doesnt seem to be a current product and does not show up in symantec's website. The old version 2.0 i found on google seems to be supported for NT/2000.

Also dispart doesnt seem to have the capability to perform hot resize and non-destructive resize. I current dont have any unpartitioned disk space. I need to share the free space between the partitions...

Vinod.

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2006-02-10 at 00:19:19ID: 15920304

Have used Volume Manager on Windows 2003 before.  I am remembering it being the Symantec product, but will check as there seems to be more than one vendor calling their product Volume Manager.  I would try it though.

Other option, would be to move part of pagefile to D: drive if the one on C: is fairly large.  This will free up some space.  Can also check for any memory dump files and clear them off then change the startup and recovery options to create memory dump files on d: instead of the default location in system root of c:.

Good luck.


 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-10 at 07:24:07ID: 15923269

lazarus98,
    Have you used the professional version or the server version ???

Vinod.

 

by: lazarus98Posted on 2006-02-10 at 09:05:39ID: 15924321

I use the Server version. The professional version does not support the 2003 Server. The Server version DOES support it. It cost about $299 US.

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-10 at 09:09:56ID: 15924385

Oh ok. Thats what i thought. I sent them an e-mail and i havent got a response yet. So you have successfully used server version and performed hot resize without any problems ????

Have you used any of these ??

Partition Commander
BootIT.


Thank you for your help...

Vinod.

 

by: lazarus98Posted on 2006-02-10 at 09:13:27ID: 15924423

Here's a link to the Paragon site: http://www.partition-manager.com/corporate/server/

 

by: lazarus98Posted on 2006-02-10 at 09:15:16ID: 15924445

I have not used Patition Commander or BootIT, but I have HOT resized partition several times with no problem. It will rezise upward, I don't know it it will rezise down though. I have not tried that.

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-10 at 09:18:16ID: 15924469

Well in that case, if you are resizing one partition upwards, other partition has to be resized downwards right ????

How does it work then ???

Vinod.

 

by: lazarus98Posted on 2006-02-10 at 09:45:03ID: 15924791

It can handle that easily enough. It has the Redistribution Wizard that will make it easy enough for you. Remember though... Partition Manager can change partitions on Basic Disks only. In case your hard disk(s) were modified to Dynamic Disk(s), use the "Convert to Basic Disk" function first.

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-10 at 11:06:30ID: 15925490

If it has a redistribution wizard, then where would the "upward" only be applicable ????

Vinod.

 

by: lazarus98Posted on 2006-02-10 at 19:20:55ID: 15928936

Sorry, was in meetings ealier. You can HOT resize upward only. To change the rest you are going to have to reboot at some point into the BLUE work screen. There is just no way around that. The HOT Resize is just going to help you buy some time during your busy time, untill you can reboot. Other than that, you'll have to ask Paragon for more or better info. I'm just a lowly user. But it's really about the best one out there form the ones i have used.

 

by: mvvinodPosted on 2006-02-10 at 19:45:52ID: 15928994

Thanks for all your help... I will try it this weekend hopefully and post back results...

Vinod.

 

by: harleyjdPosted on 2006-02-10 at 20:13:28ID: 15929090

For a really good time - get the eval version of Microsoft Virtual PC (90 days I think), and run wup W2k3 on it. Then you can mess with HDD resizing safely.

We have the Action Pack (A Microsoft Partner package) that gives us 10 copies of vPC, so we can do testing without interfereing with other stuff.

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