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Server Logon

Asked by: lfaulkneruk

Hi Guys!,

On an install I have just completed I have noticed that for a user that is heavily restricted (GPOs - Nearly all selected) logon is extremely slow!  For a users that are partially restricted or are an admin with no restrictions logon is almost instant. Is there any reason that this should happen? Its the same when logging off. All the IPs are static and the DNS list points to the server before it points to the internet. Any ideas? Greatly appreciated!

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2007-11-02 at 16:41:35ID22936146
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Answers

 

by: KCTSPosted on 2007-11-02 at 16:49:36ID: 20205229

The Preferred DNS server setting should point tou your own internal DNS server - the alternate DNS server should also point to a second internal server if you have one - if not it should be blank. Only your internal DNS servers should appear in the client settings - otherwise problems can occure

To resolve external names then you need to set up a forwarder on the DNS server to point to the ISPs DNS servers - see  http://www.petri.co.il/configure_dns_forwarding.htm - its the same for 2003 as for 2000

The more GPOs that are applied then the longer it will take - try to rationalize GPOs

 

by: LilshooterPosted on 2007-11-02 at 17:07:37ID: 20205323

Login times can become slower when more group policy objects are applied to a user login, each of those policies are copied to the client machine upon login.  I don't believe that client workstations cache GPO's so they would have to download and apply them at each login.  You might look into granulating your GPO's and see if there is better performance.  To do this, use the GPMC.MSC to create lots of GPO's and apply them to a user, for instance, create a GPO called "User - Control Panel" then edit the GPO and only modify the Control Panel settings of Administrative Templates for the User.

Instead of lumping all configuration changes into one GPO you can easily identify specific GPO's  This also helps with modifying a specific GPO setting for groups of users.

Cheers,

Shoota

 

by: KCTSPosted on 2007-11-02 at 17:16:05ID: 20205374

The number of GPOs is always a compromise. The more specific a GPO then the easier it is to identify what each one does but that would mean applying lots of GPOs which would be slow.

On the otherhand you can put lots of settings into a single GPO, the one GPO would be applied rapidly - but the settings would be dificult to manage.

Its a trade of between speed and ease of management.

 

by: KCTSPosted on 2007-11-02 at 18:43:52ID: 20205622

... following on from my last comment:-
Avoid applying lots of 'trivial' polcies eg A policy to set the desktop options, another to hide the control panel, another to apply a logon script and another to set internet options.

Create a single GPO with all the settings required by a set of users, eg Create a GPO to define all of the options for sales users and apply ir to the sales OU, another for IT staff and apply it to the IT OU.

Reduce the number GPOs than need to be processed for each user by setting policies as far un in the GP hierarchy as possible, eg have a GPO with all of the common settings applied at the Domain Level and let inheritance apply the same settings to OUs and nested OUs

See http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Best-Practices-Designing-Group-Policy.html  for more advice



 

by: lfaulknerukPosted on 2007-11-03 at 03:16:33ID: 20206427

Hi Guys,

In the OU there is only the 1 GPO applied but it is still slow...I tried adding the DNS Forwarder but it didnt make much difference.

 

by: ChiefITPosted on 2007-11-03 at 05:43:52ID: 20206671

I really shouldn't add because the other comments were so good.

I wanted to comment on some of my own personal experience that KCTS was eluding to. KCTS said, "Reduce the number GPOs than need to be processed for each user by setting policies as far un in the GP hierarchy as possible, eg have a GPO with all of the common settings applied at the Domain Level and let inheritance apply the same settings to OUs and nested OUs."

Sometimes you can get GPOs that conflict and the computer has to hammer out the "resultant set of policy". Say you deny access to control pannel on a user but have a default domain policy to allow it. The conflicts can cause a lot of checks and balances on what the resultant set of policy should be.

 

by: PorkaPosted on 2007-11-03 at 22:01:04ID: 20209618

Are there any warnings or erros in the event logs of the machine relating to when the users logon ? On sites where i have folder redirections in place i apply an m/s patch because i was randomly getting logon delays of anywhere up to a minute because of it. Maybe this link might help

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899409

 

by: lfaulknerukPosted on 2007-11-04 at 05:41:58ID: 20210444

Hi guys!

Thanks for all the input! - I've tried setting the GPOs in a hierachey and still not much different. I will try and apply the patch mentioned and see what results I get from that.

 

by: lfaulknerukPosted on 2007-11-23 at 07:37:12ID: 20339372

Hi Guys,

Have solved the problem.

Very large favourites file downloading and uploading everytime. Have created a custom ADM file to point the favourites to a location on the server. Instant logon/logoff now!

Lee

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