Any computer that is physically attached to the network and that is set to obtain an IP address should get one, regardless of whether they are on the domain or not.
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Browse All TopicsWe have server 2003 with AD and DHCP roles.
At the moment DHCP provides ip's only for the workstations which are members of the domain. Workstations that are members of workgroup are unable to get IP settings from DHCP. The goal is that all the hosts get needed settings wheter they are members of domain or not.
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Workstation used to have static IP:s and everything worked perfectly. Now when workstation is in a workgroup and configured to obtain IP-settings from dhcp, they only get APIPA addresses. (169.254.x.x)
Procurve switch also does not get the IP address trough DHCP which is reserved to it by MAC-address.
OK - well that's the problem. If you don't have any free IP addresses in your pool, then your workstations can't obtain an IP address. If you are actually using all of those reservations already, then you will have to extend your scope. If you are saying that you have reservations set up for those particular workstations and they aren't working, then try removing the reservations to free up the IP addresses and see if the workstations can obtain an IP address without a reservation.
On our network we have to use the MAC-address reservation for security reasons. But maybe I could test that tomorrow (only for temporarily).
IP-addresses are reserved also for workstations which are not memebers of the domain.
Is it possible for workstation in a workgroup to obtain the IP-settings from DHCP if MAC-address reservation is used?
The reservations should work as long as the MAC addresses are correct and as long as you don't have any duplicate MAC addresses on your network. However, just for a test I recommend you give it a try without the reservations.
You might want to also check your DHCP log files and see if you can determine whether the workstation requests are actually getting to the server and what's happening to them. The logs are located on the DHCP server at %systemroot%\system32\dhcp
Here is some of the dhcp log from server:
11,05/13/08,18:32:13,Renew
31,05/13/08,18:32:13,DNS Update Failed,10.18.39.14,L514.lu
30,05/13/08,18:32:16,DNS Update Request,14.39.18.10,L514.l
11,05/13/08,18:32:16,Renew
31,05/13/08,18:32:16,DNS Update Failed,10.18.39.14,L514.lu
11,05/13/08,18:46:49,Renew
11,05/13/08,18:47:15,Renew
11,05/13/08,18:55:09,Renew
11,05/13/08,18:57:40,Renew
11,05/13/08,19:05:59,Renew
For reasons unknown there is no information about workstations that are not members of the domain. They still try to get the Ip- and dns-settings from dhcp. Is there a log on the workstations that could also help?
I try temporarily allow dhcp without mac-reservations tomorrow and report the results then.
If there is no information about the non-member workstations, then they are not able to reach the DHCP server for some reason. I would confirm this by testing - go to a workstation and do an ipconfig /release and then ipconfig /renew. Then, go to the DHCP server and re-check the logs immediately to be sure there's nothing there showing any communication from that workstation.
If you still don't see anything, then something is blocking the communication between the workstations and the server. If the switch also doesn't get an IP address, then what hardware is between the switch and the server - another switch, a router?
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by: hypercatPosted on 2008-05-13 at 09:49:47ID: 21556902
What's actually happening on the workgroup clients? Are they getting APIPA addresses? Have they been on the network awhile or just been added to the network? The reason for the questions is that there is no requirement for domain membership in order for a client to get a DHCP address from the server. Provided that DHCP is configured and operating properly, you should be able to attach any client workstation to the network without domain membership and it will still get an IP address.