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DNS question: howto override only some DNS entries on a local DNS Server

Asked by: rj2

Is it possible to override only some DNS entries on a local DNS Server on Windows Server 2003?
How do I do that?
The background is that I want to override some DNS entries with local addresses, but I don't want to define every address on the domain on my local DNS

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2008-08-07 at 00:43:28ID23628510
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Answers

 

by: farhankaziPosted on 2008-08-07 at 00:52:01ID: 22178738

On that server you can place those entries with local addresses in HOSTS file (%SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc)

 

by: rj2Posted on 2008-08-07 at 01:11:11ID: 22178812

Do I create a zone for the domain in this case?

 

by: farhankaziPosted on 2008-08-07 at 01:16:34ID: 22178832

No, you just have to write entries like

172.16.1.22  hostname1.domain.com.local
172.16.1.23  hostname2.domain.com.local

 

by: lavionlinePosted on 2008-08-07 at 01:30:06ID: 22178891

Host file can help you override entries for DNS.

For eg: there is a host A on your DNS named: server1.zone.local and it has an ipaddress of 192.168.1.1

in your DNS Server's HOSTS file, you add following entry:

Server1.zone.local           192.168.1..12

Now, if you ping Server1.zone.local from DNS Server itself, it'll resolve to 192.168.1.12

However, if you ping Server1.zone.local from any client pointing to your DNS server, it will still get the ipaddress in zone which is 192.168.1.1

So, if you plan to override name resolution settings only from your DNS server, HOSTS file modification on DNS would do the job. But if you want to override few entries from all the clients, you'll have to make those entries in CLIENT'S HOSTS file.

I hope it explains the things a bit more clearly before you actually make the change

 

by: rj2Posted on 2008-08-07 at 01:45:19ID: 22178966

I tried to add an entry to the hosts file on the DNS server for a host which does not have zone.
If I ping the host on the DNS server itself it uses the overridden entry.
But if I ping the host from a client computer (after I flushed the DNS cache) it did not use the overridden entry. So it did not work.

 

by: farhankaziPosted on 2008-08-07 at 01:50:59ID: 22178996

You need to update Hosts file on all client from where you wish to ping hosts with changed IP's.

 

by: KCTSPosted on 2008-08-07 at 01:56:20ID: 22179022

Can we step back a bit here

WHY are you trying to do this, if a client cannot resolve names in the local DNS there there are going to be serious knock on consequences. If should not be necessary to "override" DNS settings

 

by: rj2Posted on 2008-08-07 at 01:57:38ID: 22179033

lavionline:That's right on
I need to override on the CLIENT. But I would rather not run around on each and every client to do it.
Is there another way?

 

by: rj2Posted on 2008-08-07 at 02:01:52ID: 22179053

We use NAT on the LAN. Some servers on this domain are at my location and the DNS should resolve to the local address for clients on the LAN. But other servers on the same domain are located elsewhere.
I would rather not define all IPs for the domain in my local DNS server because there are many hosts and the IP's change over time. But I need to override a few hosts.

 

by: RudramPosted on 2008-08-07 at 02:48:28ID: 22179313

* Even if the IPs keep on changing, DNS has a way to scavenge the stale records i.e. the invalid entries.

* But if you need to hardcode some IPs in all the client machines, then possibiliy you can opt for a startup script that would edit the Host file on each client system in your domain with your specific entries.

Hope this works (^_^)

 

by: lavionlinePosted on 2008-08-07 at 03:52:19ID: 22179624

When you say "other servers are located elsewhere", both sites must be somehow connected to each other using some link like T1 line or site-to-site tunnel using routers/firewall.  if there is such a connection, make those servers point to DNS server at your end and they will register themselves in DNS.

There has to be a route between these locations. DNS registration will not work over NAT.

 

by: rj2Posted on 2008-08-07 at 04:47:17ID: 22179962

No, when I say "same domain" I mean IP domain, not Windows domain.

 

by: rj2Posted on 2008-08-07 at 04:49:34ID: 22179974

We simply have two servers at our site with hostname like xxx.mydomain.com. Outside our site there are other servers with hostnames like yyy.mydomain.com. Both are on the Internet, that's their only link.

 

by: lavionlinePosted on 2008-08-07 at 06:45:11ID: 22180830

I am not sure if i understand your network correctly. Can u give an example of ipaddresses of your internal servers and external servers. When you say some servers are on internet, i assume you mean that they have public IPs. How do they connect to your DC which is internal? or do we have a workgroup setup?

 

by: rj2Posted on 2008-08-07 at 06:51:22ID: 22180899

Internal adresses are like 10.0.1.X. The external/public adresses are like 194.x.y.z
The servers in our LAN are accessible from the Internet only on port 80.
The servers in our LAN does not communicate with servers located elsewhere, they just have hostnames in the same domain (URL domain, not WIndows domain)

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2008-08-07 at 07:56:24ID: 22181559


'lo guys,

>  Is it possible to override only some DNS entries on a local DNS Server on Windows Server 2003?

Yes, absolutely.

All you have to do is treat each host as a zone in its own right.

e.g.

bob.domain.com resolves to 212.213.214.215 publicly
bob.domain.com must be accessed via 192.168.1.2 internally

In the DNS Console:

1. Select Forward Lookup Zones
2. Create a new Forward Lookup Zone as Primary / AD Integrated
3. Name the zone bob.domain.com
4. Disable Dynamic Updates for the zone
5. Select the zone and create a new Host (A) Record
6. Leave the name blank. Enter the IP 192.168.1.2

That means the zone name itself, bob.domain.com, will resolve to the IP above. That will list as "(same as parent folder)" under the zone.

HTH

Chris

 

by: Chris-DentPosted on 2009-05-20 at 03:36:34ID: 24430212


Hosts meets the requirements of the original question, even if it is high maintenance.

My method will achieve do this using DNS which as far as I can see meets all the requirements of the original question and the later stipulation that DNS was preferred over Hosts.

I would say...

Split: farhankazi (http:#22178738) and, Chris-Dent (http:#22181559)

Unless the author thinks otherwise of course :)

Chris

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