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2003/2008 DFS Mesh Topology with User Home Folder Redirection/Roaming Profile

Asked by: pacman_d

I am about to embark on a infrastructure redesign for a 4 physical site organization. They havec made a few attempts at synching/backing up data across their WAN but they have a mixture of fractional to full T1s at best.
Users visit the other sites, and a good amount of them use roaming profiles. Of course it is disasterous when a  user with roaming profile from site A logs on to Site B. I am looking at using DFS and either roaming profiles or better yet folder redirection for "My Docs" and "Desktop" to synchronize each server's DFS share to all other physical sites. Of course this hinges on the bandwidth getting upgraded to 10mbps between sites (hopefully 100mbps)
The other concerns are best practices in implementation:
Does each server have to physically visit every other site for an intial synchronization?
How "supported" is AD user objects with roaming profiles or folder redirection when their folder resides in a DFS share?
Also...Is it supported to do this between a 2003 and 2008 server? Are the versions of DFS compatible with each other?

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2009-01-16 at 11:44:15ID24059156
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by: CynepMeHPosted on 2009-01-16 at 14:36:17ID: 23398128

Since you're talking about a mesh, I'm assuming you're talking about Windows 2003 R2, as DFS differences between "original" and R2 are VERY drastic.

Your bandwidth challenges and concerns are certainly valid. Depending on the scenario, you may have several options. I usually have a very strict set of standards for roaming users for these exact reasons.

1. No saving to the desktop
2. Folder re-direction to DFS share (which itself is replicated)
3. Internet Explorer cache - 10MB or less, cleaned up on logon/logoff
4. No iTunes if possible or iTunes modified to save locally, not to network
5. Any apps that attempt to cache or write to the network have to be reviewed
6. Recycle bin set to 1%, NOT synch'd to the network, automatically cleaned up on logon/logoff
7. User Temp folder cleaned up on logon/logoff
8. No bitmap caching for RDP client (if in use, etc).

There could be other concerns but basically, go through your average user's profile folder and identify your large folders/files. Determine why they are large and what can be done to shrink them. Some may require hacking of registry and/or custom GPO.

Once you've slimmed down your profile size, you can now at least have some sort of baseline to go off of.

Now, here's a wonderful part - DFS-R in R2 does differential updates - so, only files that have changed are updated. To speed up this process, I'd recommend having your replica servers connected on a LAN - this way you can do an initial sync and then ship them out in the field. This way, you'll be only pushing delta updates across the WAN.

As far as supportability goes, this is a very common scenario and even included in GPO extensively. Take a look at some policies to see what I mean. This is a 100% supported (and often recommended) solution.

2003 R2 and 2008 can be DFS-R partners without any issues. Even "original" DFS can be used, albeit with number of limitations and careful planning. I'd recommend sticking with R2 and 2008, if possible.

This is a pretty good MS blog on DFS - take a look. Also contains number of useful links:
http://blogs.technet.com/askds/archive/tags/DFSR/default.aspx

Also, take a look here if you haven't already:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772778.aspx

 

by: pacman_dPosted on 2009-01-21 at 12:13:23ID: 23433454

Those resources are really helpful, thanks. I was wondering if anyone can make recommendations on implementing this in an existing production environment. I had two main concerns/ideas:

Creating DFS root shares at each site and then synchronize them with the branch sites. This way each main hub would be the primary for their users' location and then failover to the branch in the case of an outage or if the user logs on to the branch network physically.

Thinking about building these DFS shares little by little. Since it may be really difficult or impossible to take down their production network to ship servers for all of these inital syncs.., perhaps populate the DFS shares little by little so that the synchronization can complete before adding new data.

Thoughts?

 

by: SplinterCell5894Posted on 2009-03-31 at 10:37:07ID: 24031438

pacman_d,

It looks like this question is still open, so I figured I'd throw in my $0.02.

I've just implemented this in our network.  Topology is as follows:

Server A
         \_____ VPN _____ Server C
         /
Server B

Server A and Server C are Windows 2003 R2.  Server B is Windows 2008.

I joined Server B to the domain and installed the File Services Role and enabled the DFS features.  I did not enable the backwards-compatable stuff in 2008.

I added Server B to the replication group which already existed with Servers A & C.  Everything replicated perfectly.

Once everything replicated to Server B, I removed Server A from the replication group and namespace.  Then, I decommissioned the server.

I plan on doing the same with Server A.  At the end, I've got a complete 2008 DFS infrastructure.

I think the key is (as was pointed out previously) is to make sure that all Windows 2003 Servers are R2.

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