Question

Moving NTLM Authentication to another server

Asked by: dakinegeek

I'm currently using NTML on a Windows Server 2003 box to authenticate Cognos BI users.  The server has been acting real flakey, so weve purchased a new server that also has Windows Server 2003 as its OS.  Can someone help me to figure out how to move the NTLM users for the old server to the new server?  

A little more background on my situation:  Many of you may be wondering why we dont user AD.  The reason for this is that our IT team is planning to restructure our AD forest and according to Cognos consultants, this could cause problems for us.  So that is why we decided to go with NTLM authentication.

Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated!

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2009-04-23 at 14:29:57ID24350696
Tags

Windows Server 2003

Topic

Windows 2003 Server

Participating Experts
1
Points
500
Comments
4

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. NTLM in Java
    I need to know if there is a NTLM inplementation in java. If not, how should i go about building it myself. I am writing a java program that needs to authenticate users through NTLM. Thanks
  2. NTLM Authentication
    Help! I'm trying to connect to a web server at work from home using Visual Interdev 6. I'm using Win 98 and I've already setup Client for Microsoft Networks in Control Panel so the NTLM protocol should be on my system. However, when I try to create a new project and connect t...
  3. What is NTLM?
    I have found a definition here but would like some clarification: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa378749.aspx Is NTLM the actual NT authentication method used when logging on with domain credentials to an active directory domain? Is this also the authentication met...
  4. Difference between NTLM and kerberos
    Difference between NTLM and kerberos
  5. Prompt for NTLM authentication
    How do I disable auto NTLM authentication so I get prompted for a pssword.

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: ChiefITPosted on 2009-04-25 at 11:19:55ID: 24233001

nice catch:

I helped someone with this in the past:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Server/Windows_2003_Active_Directory/Q_23132123.html

You can do this by GPO or manually.

 

by: dakinegeekPosted on 2009-04-27 at 11:14:15ID: 24244183

Chief,

Thanks for the reply but I don't think that's what I'm looking for.  I'm not worried about the security portion of NTLM because I'm only using it as a third party authentication tool for Cognos BI software (Cognos doesn't have their own authentication built in).

So...I'm just trying to get the user profiles that were built on NTLM transferred from the old server to the new server.  It's going to really suck if I need to rebuild profiles for 300+ users.

Thanks!

 

by: ChiefITPosted on 2009-04-27 at 13:49:23ID: 24245548

In that case, your domain should Allow NTLM authentication, I think you can use the same GPOs as described.

Then, you can replicate your users from one system to another after promoting the one server to a DC.

NOTE: 2003 server SP2 is, I think, the cutoff point for NTLM,

I am going under the assumption that CONGO uses the DC's as their authentication server and is a legacy program that requires NTLM authentication, not has its own authentication as you mentioned.

 

by: dakinegeekPosted on 2009-05-15 at 12:21:55ID: 24398900

The server using NTLM has nothing to do with the DC.  NTLM authentication is just used by Cognos and is set up on the same server that Cognos is install on.  

I found an app that may help me do this.  Just haven't had time yet to do so.

http://www.winzero.ca/MSVR-Migrator.htm

Let me know if you have any other ideas.  Thank you for your help!

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...