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SMTP connector ques filling up, outgoing mail not moving.
Tags: Microsoft, Exchange Server 2003 sp1, 2003 SP1, installed on an active/passive cluster
We are running a single Exchange server, in an active/passive cluster.  In the past two days all outgoing smtp traffic has been at a standstill.  Messages simply sit in their que in a retry state until they expire.  I have noticed that if i fail over from sever1 to server2 smtp flows for about a min or so.  this is really startign to cause problems and needs to get fixed.  I have called micorsoft to no avail, so i am at the feet of the experts here.  we have made no changes to the system in the past few months.  
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02.07.2008 at 11:11AM PST, ID: 20843963

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02.07.2008 at 11:11AM PST, ID: 20843963
what errors (if any) are you getting in your event logs?

Does the SMTP service stop when mailflow stops?

Has your public mailserver IP maybe been blacklisted?
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02.07.2008 at 11:14AM PST, ID: 20843996
OK
if you have made no changes than i rec its with your isp tell me more about the services your isp is hostin for you as well which outgoing server you using and also if you can check the mx records .....
BUT B$ doint this I woul suggest to try this on smtp virtual server right click stop and start service and do same on the mail connector and resart the smtp,DNS,and iis serevices and see it this works otherwise give me the mentioned details
 
02.07.2008 at 11:29AM PST, ID: 20844149
If i go in to the event viewer i have the following error in the application log.

"This is an SMTP protocol error log for virtual server ID 1, connection # 1174.  The remote hos "12.191.22.203", responded to the SMTP command "rcpt" with "550.5.7.0 <jquutyhoiav@ifh.com>...Local Policy Violation ". The full commnad sent was "RCPT TO: <jquutyhoiav@ifh.com> ". This will probably cause the connection to fail."

i have this error multiple times, 100+ in the log.  


 
02.07.2008 at 11:34AM PST, ID: 20844186
Ok
its with the user policy if you check in policy setting have you got priority highest to emails
 
02.07.2008 at 12:27PM PST, ID: 20844707
Where do i check this?
 
02.07.2008 at 12:32PM PST, ID: 20844765
SMTP services does not stop when mail flow stops.

I checked and our domain has not been blacklisted.

Internal email is flowing normally and we can recieved all outside mail, but still not able to send outside.
 
02.07.2008 at 12:38PM PST, ID: 20844855
Well.....the "local policy violation" is being generated by the opposite ends mailserver so something your server is sending out is violating a policy setting at the destination - The email addresses in the error messages - are they all the same or are they different addresses?

 
02.07.2008 at 12:40PM PST, ID: 20844892
have you added any new DNS records...like an SPF record or maybe even a reverse lookup on your mail servers public ip?
 
02.07.2008 at 12:45PM PST, ID: 20844959
in your log entry above, it says the REMOTE host responded with "550.5.7.0 Local Policy Violation" so the policy being referenced is from the remote server. My guess is that they are classifying your email as SPAM or the person you are sending to mailbox is full.

I would try the SMTPDIAG program from Microsoft located here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bc1881c7-925d-4a29-bd42-71e8563c80a9&displaylang=en

Its helped me numerous times. you can also try to use telnet following the steps outlined here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/153119 but the SMTPDIAG is easiest
 
02.07.2008 at 12:48PM PST, ID: 20844991
The email addresses in the error log are all different. there are also event warnings that calling client does not have permission to use MTA RPCs. Outgoing emails are slowly moving thorugh que on passive cluster, but still getting errors. No new records have been added, but we have instituted GFI recently, which was working fine till last week. we have uninstalled and disabled it now in effort to get email back on track.
 
02.07.2008 at 01:05PM PST, ID: 20845181

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which GFI product? did the uninstall resolve the issue?
 
02.07.2008 at 01:19PM PST, ID: 20845332
We had GFI MailEssentials 12, the latest build, installed on the Exchange Server cluster, and GFI Mailarchiver 4 running on a seperate server.  Unistalled MailEssentials and that did not solve the issue
 
02.07.2008 at 01:21PM PST, ID: 20845358
Also outgoing mail appears to work when i fail over to the passive, server2, on the cluster.  Any thoughts as to why smtp does not work on server1, but does on server2?
 
02.07.2008 at 01:36PM PST, ID: 20845534

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it sounds like it could be related to gfi but you've uninstalled and restarted exchange?  

i would download the exchange troubleshooting assistant, http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4bdc1d6b-de34-4f1c-aeba-fed1256caf9a&displaylang=en
there is a way to troubleshoot mail flow issues.

i would do some google searches on those errors you have in your event logs.  

regarding the local security violation in the logs.. is that all from the same domain?  

something is different between the two servers, something on server 1 is causing it not to work. we just have to figure out what

 
02.07.2008 at 01:37PM PST, ID: 20845539

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also try the smtp diag as suggested above.  
 
02.07.2008 at 01:39PM PST, ID: 20845556

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check to make sure you aren't an open relay---go to dnsstuff.com and do a report on your domain.  it might not be free anymore but a dnsstuff membership is cheap and is a good tool

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02.07.2008 at 01:39PM PST, ID: 20845559

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try those and report back, i've gotta leave work now, i'll check back when i get home and see how you are doing
 
02.07.2008 at 02:36PM PST, ID: 20846111
did the dnsstuff report and all was good. now i am just attempting to find the difference between server1 and sever2 that is causing server1 to not allow SMTP.   And yes, i did an unistall of GFI mailessentials and restarted both servers, as it was installed on the shared drive between the cluster.
 
02.07.2008 at 05:06PM PST, ID: 20846989

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yep, compare the smtp virtual server settings and smtp connector settings.  
 
02.08.2008 at 12:21AM PST, ID: 20848615
HI
OK i can ask you to try one way around if you have a mail connector it will forward all your mails as well and bear in mind the mail connector will override your smtp virtual server setting so all what you can try is stop the smtp server then restar the connectoe and iis services and test the folw if its still blocking then try creating new smtp and see if that works and also make sure to add these new smtp in your connector as well.
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02.08.2008 at 06:03PM PST, ID: 20855905
OK, first off thank you to all that have offered help so far,
After another 4hrs with my good buddy at microsoft, this is what we have come up with.  When i am on node2 of the cluster mail flows in and out like normal, all smtp traffic is normal.  When i am on node1 all internal mail flows normally, and outgoing smtp is blocked.  i went to dnsgoodies.com and checked my IP of the firewall, and mx recored.  When i am on node1 all return as blocked, but if i go to node2 only a few return as blocked or blacklisted.  The MS tech is leading me to believe that a machine on our network is infected with the STORM worm.  I am currently scanning all workstations in an attempt to find the infected machine.  This would also explain why we have been getting large jumps in bandwidth usage at very strange times of day.  Any other thoughts or idea would be most helpful.
 
02.09.2008 at 10:41AM PST, ID: 20858185

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"i went to dnsgoodies.com and checked my IP of the firewall, and mx recored.  When i am on node1 all return as blocked".  What do you mean "all return as blocked"?  

what is leading him to believe that you have a pc with the storm worm?  the bandwidth?  as far as i know that worm targets systems running iis 4 or 5 that don't have a certain ms update.  do you have a machine that is/was running iis 4 or 5?

when your outbound email slows down and stops, what do you see in your queues?  do you see alot of smtp connectors to external domains?  

the worm can do two things, make the pc part of a botnet and/or send numerous outbound emails.  

do you have any internet reporting software (websense for example)?  that would help

if you have the storm worm on one of your client machines i don't understand why it would affect the smtp on one server and not another
 
02.09.2008 at 05:26PM PST, ID: 20859564