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setting up thin client environment

Asked by: simongod

i have a purchase three of these "thin clients"

http://www.icoptech.com/products_detail.asp?ProductID=251

i am not sure how to set up my environment for use as a thin client using server 2003.  as soon as the device turns on i would like the remote desktop to show.  what are the steps involved in enabling this for this particular thin client that i bought?

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2007-02-21 at 10:07:11ID22404187
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Windows 2003 Server

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Answers

 

by: Dave_DietzPosted on 2007-02-21 at 17:53:38ID: 18584129

These aren't exactly thing clients.

These are embedded boards in a chassis.

You will need to find an operating system that will run on the hardware, install the OS on a DOC (disk on chip) to act as the boot device and then you can configure them however you would like.

You should be able to run Windows CE.Net or a Linux flavor on it.

Beyond that you would have to configure a Remote Desktop Client of some sort to connect to your Terminal Server.

Dave Dietz

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-21 at 19:43:51ID: 18584876

i am afraid i am rather a dummy when it comes to this, could you provide me with better instructions?  could you recomend a cheap thin client device with an OS already installed on one of these, possibly wince or a variant of linux that will connect to a windows 2003 terminal server?

 

by: Dave_DietzPosted on 2007-02-21 at 23:12:50ID: 18585503

Unfortunately I don't know pricing for any off the top of my head, but I can suggest a couple companies to check out:

http://www.wyse.com
http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/neoware/index.html (used to be IBM, now its Lenovo) - has pricing information as well

Keep your eyes open for RDP rather than ICA when looking at the protocols they support - RDP is what Terminal Server uses, ICA is Citrix and is a significant extra cost.

Dave Dietz

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-22 at 06:01:20ID: 18587436

if these had a disk on chip i could use win xp embedded tools to put winxp embedded on them, then use that with terminal server.  any ideas on what steps i should take to make that happen?  i dont think that purchasing one with the os already on them is an option for me.  i have platform builder already so buying on without an os and then building an deploying an os to it could work for me.

 

by: Dave_DietzPosted on 2007-02-22 at 06:55:17ID: 18588008

Disk on chip is basically a flash memory device with an IDE connector.  You plug it into an IDE port and the system sees it as a hard drive.

If you purchase one, plug it into an available IDE port on a normal compouter and then load the appropriate files for XPe on it (haven't done much with this, would assume the embeded tools have some means of prepping a disk like this) you should then be able to drop it in the thin client device and be up and running.

Dave Dietz

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-22 at 07:01:45ID: 18588069

i figured as much, but what confuses me is how to use remote desktop in such a way that its the only thing a user can interact with.  here is the boot process i am looking for.  when the device boots whatever os is installed is not accessable to the user, only the remote desktop provided by the terminal server.  is this possible?  i would be using winxp embedded for this.  so i guess what i am looking for it a way to replace the default login screen that would log the user in locally on that machine with a remote login only allowing the user access to the remote desktop and never the local os on the machine being used.

 

by: Dave_DietzPosted on 2007-02-22 at 07:12:44ID: 18588188

Once you have XPe installed change the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\shell

to point to something like MSTSC.exe with appropriate parameters.

This will cause RDP to load as the user shell rather than explorer.

You can also set it to automatically log on a specific user by following the steps detailed at this link:
http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/13/

Put these two things together and every time the device is started it will log on this user and fire up RDP client.

Dave Dietz

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-22 at 07:22:18ID: 18588284

yes i am familiar with that link that you sent me.  what would be the appropriate parameters to use with mstsc.exe?  probably something like login name, pass, and terminal server?

 

by: Dave_DietzPosted on 2007-02-22 at 07:38:53ID: 18588479

Try running "mstsc /?" - this will give you all the available parameters.

It may be best to use a specific configuration file since I believe that is the only way you can specify UserID and password for the connection.

Dave Dietz

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-22 at 08:42:14ID: 18589143

but it is possible to completely hide the local os from the user and only allow them to see and use the remote desktop right?

 

by: Dave_DietzPosted on 2007-02-22 at 12:24:55ID: 18591110

That's pretty much what happens when you replace the default shell with something else.

The client doesn't see windows explorer, all they see is the program you configure as the shell.

This is also how kiosks are often set up.

Dave Dietz

 

by: matthew_129Posted on 2008-07-22 at 17:09:12ID: 22064875

Thats actually a pretty great solution and allows almost out of the box connectivity on XPe clients... Only problem ive got now is how are you meant to shut it down once out of the TS session? apart from alt+ctrl+del, my users are too dumb to do that to shut it down everyday.... but I suppose theres no harm in just powering it off?

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