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Expanding the C: partition

Asked by: partnersmvz

Need to find out if EASEUS Partition Manager Server Edition will move my  c: partition to D: partition. Im running into this problem with many of my clients and i need to find a resolution. They are all Windows 2003 SBS. all clients have a c: drive that is about 20GB and the d: is 200GB. i need to find a software to combine the 2 partitions.

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Answers

 

by: dons6718Posted on 2008-09-22 at 21:28:32ID: 22546429

My preference is Acronis Server.  It allows you to shrink the D volume and expand the c: volume in one operation (albit a long one) and has not failed me yet.

 

by: leewPosted on 2008-09-22 at 21:43:12ID: 22546477

I suggest you alter your management of these systems.  20 GB is MORE than enough space.  I don't have one SBS server with more than a 20 GB C: drive and most are 12-16 GB.  If you properly move data off the C: drive and spend about 30 minutes PER YEAR monitoring the disk, you'll find 12 GB (or 20) is more than enough.

Please read my web page on boot drive size -
http://www.lwcomputing.com/tips/static/bootdrivesize.asp

 

by: ptholenPosted on 2008-09-23 at 00:23:25ID: 22547047

20 GB must be enough for a C: drive indeed. Maybe a lot of backup logs/profiles?

If you really need extra space i would recommend Acronis Disk Director. You can reduce D:\ in size and increase C:\ with that. I don't think you will combine these two...

Patrick

 

by: GaryStevensPosted on 2008-09-23 at 05:46:51ID: 22548610

partenersmvz
Traditionally I create a separate partition for the echange dbs and logs and move that off C drive. I also create a static swap file = to 2x the RAM, or there abouts. Both htese will reduce space on C drive and with the exception of updates will stabilise the C requorements. With larger drives available I suggest 40GB for C
Acronis is a good choice for resizing the partitions.
I do not recommend amalgamating C and D as keeping the Company Data on it's own partition plus Profiles, etc will assistance in performance overall and as the data is changing constantly it is the drive which requires the most maintenance.
Backup C + Exchange weekly and the data drive daily.
GS

 

by: partnersmvzPosted on 2008-09-25 at 16:58:55ID: 22575154

I appricate the comments, ill definetley look into that software. Between Windows updates and exchange and minimal programs, it seems like after a couple years im down to 2 GB. thanks for the help.

 

by: leewPosted on 2008-09-25 at 17:05:24ID: 22575186

What about Exchange?  Exchange takes up 300 MB - that's it.  Windows Updates OVER TIME, will take up space, but don't you periodically delete old Update Uninstall folders?  Keeping the ones that are a year old or older is pretty pointless.  You want the ability roll back an update if you discover a problem with it... but if there has been no problem for 6 months to a year, the update is almost CERTAINLY just fine.  I normally delete updates that are older than 9 months.

The only way Exchange should be a problem for you is if you forgot to move the databases and log files off the C: drive - it's a REALLY bad idea to have them on the C: drive...

so when you take this into consideration, how much space do you have left?

 

by: partnersmvzPosted on 2008-09-25 at 17:17:30ID: 22575241

Is their any cheaper software out their. Figures big job costing big money

 

by: leewPosted on 2008-09-25 at 17:30:29ID: 22575308

Why are you so anxious to spend money?  Manage the server differently and you won't have a need to!

 

by: partnersmvzPosted on 2008-09-26 at 08:24:34ID: 22580485

I apologize for not properly giving you more background info. Im a network consultant that handles about 12 clients. With every client handling a different situation. One of my clients have a 12GB C: partition and a 250GB D: partition. They are not running exchange or anything. The problem is that when this server was setup everything was installed on the C: drive (Endpoint, Backup exec, other various programs) now before you jump to say why not just uninstall and reinstall, which would be the logical solution. I would like to find a solution that would cut out the 4-5 hours of uninstall and reinstall option. You got to think I dont stay at one client all day so time is money and if I can find something that will do that same job in 1 hour at a small cost I need to consider that. Now when I setup my clients I give them a 25GB C: partition and install nothing on the C: drive but unfortunately im getting thrown into clients that cant find half their software and are running out of C: space, and Ive done all proper measures to clean the C:,       uninstall files, logs Etc.... so I appreciate your info and ideas. I like the look of that software, but wish it was around the $200- $300 range. Thanks

 

by: leewPosted on 2008-09-26 at 10:33:03ID: 22581794

Almost all software can be reconfigured to store data elsewhere.  I KNOW backup exec can.  Moving this data is a LOT faster then repartitioning/resizing in almost all cases.  I'm a consultant as well and I just haven't come across something that absolutely required resizing the partition.  Move the data around... it's faster and a better practice.  And I give you 20 different things you can move around in the link I provided...

 

by: dons6718Posted on 2008-10-02 at 11:35:05ID: 22627101

Basically it comes down to time or money.  You can handle a cramped C: volume by moving things around by hand which takes time.  Or you can buy (or have the client buy) Acronis which allows you to avoid having to move things around.  In my experience, it the client is short on space on both system and Data volumes, I have them buy the tool as well as a disk drive or two.  But if they are only marginall short on the system volume, and especially if their server is over 3 yrs old, I usually just spend a few hours moving things around to buy them another year since it is likely they will be replacing the entire server in a few years anyway.  I usually present the options to the client and let them decide which way to go.

 

by: leewPosted on 2008-10-02 at 14:46:59ID: 22629063

I don't know what takes all that long... Exchange is the largest time consumer.  Move the pagefile takes about 30 seconds.  Move the ClientApps folder takes 2 minutes.  If you have a checklist of what to move and how, moving things shouldn't take more than 60 minutes... it's takes longer to order the software, install it, and let it work.  And costs more - of course it's a great idea for the consultant... they can make money on it all... instead of JUST on the 60 minutes it takes to move things.  And since an appropriately configured server will not require much disk space maintenance, it also reduces billable hours in the long term as well.  Never a good thing for the consultant... though most clients like it.

Making an easy checklist is what I tried to do with the web page... go over that list and tell me what on it should take more than 5 minute other than moving the exchange information store, which should have been done at install time.

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