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How do I properly setup Global Groups to be put into Domain Local Groups?

Asked by: debbiez

I'm setting up a Windows 2008 Domain (only 1 domain in the organization) and need assistance with setting up Global Groups and then putting them into Domain Local Groups.  For example if I have a share called "accounting" and I want some users to have read only and some to have full permissions.   Would I create 2 GG called Accounting Full Access Users and Accounting Read Only Users and put users into each?  And then from there create 2 DLG's called Account Full Access Permission and Accounting Read Only Permission and then drop each corresponding global group into them?   It just seems redundant but is this the proper way to setup the groups?

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by: SkysharkPosted on 2009-09-17 at 19:19:33ID: 25362567

See this post here...should help clarify.  In a single domain/single forest scenario...it shouldn't matter which group type you select since the members will be in the same domain as the objects you'll be applying rights to are in as well.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc755692(WS.10).aspx

 

by: oBdAPosted on 2009-09-18 at 06:26:43ID: 25365663

You should use (domain) local groups and global groups to separate your organizational structure and user roles from the physical access.
You use (domain) local group to control access, and global groups to represent your organization.
In other words:
* treat each folder that requires different permissions as a different resource, and create domain local groups to control access.
* put your users into global groups according to their role in the company; add the global groups to the domain local groups to give them the access they need.
In your example:
Create a DL group "NTFS-Accounting-C" and a group "NTFS-Accounting-R"; give the first group Change permissions, the second one Read.
Do the same for other folders where you need to have different access methods.
Then group your users NOT by file access on your server; group them by corporate needs or roles, and add them to the resource groups where they require access.
If you consequently follow through with this, you're able to determine where a user has access simply by looking at his group membership, instead of running NTFS tools on the file server.
In addition, should you ever need to migrate into another domain, or allow access through a trust in general, it's just as easy: add the global groups from the other domain to the DL groups in your domain, and you're done. No need to change NTFS security all over the place.
Check here, too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGDLP

 

by: debbiezPosted on 2009-09-18 at 06:48:23ID: 25365879

But what if it's only for one department... accounting and different users have differnet access.   I would I structure different different global groups for the same department??

 

by: debbiezPosted on 2009-09-18 at 06:50:04ID: 25365900

If I choose only to use one type of groups what should I use, global or domain local?  Or doesn't it really matter?

 

by: oBdAPosted on 2009-09-18 at 07:51:29ID: 25366583

Global groups and their membership are not restricted to departments. You obviously have different roles in the accounting department, otherwise there would be no need to have different access types to the same folder.
So create two global groups according to their roles (and NOT according to the NTFS access!), for example "Role-Accounting-Queenbees" and "Role-Accounting-Workerbees" or whatever.
If you only look at this one single example, then, yes, it's currently a one-to-one assignment. But that stops as soon as you have a situation where several different users need to have different access to several different servers.
It's worth it to invest some time in planning a proper role and naming concept.

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