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Cannot see other computers on network....

Asked by: CompuTurk

I am wondering why my Windows2000 machine cannot see other computers on the network and other cannot see my machine?

I have TCP/IP protocol install, File and Printer Sharing...they all connect to a LinkSys 4-port Hub/Switch/Router and connect to internet, even though I set everything the same on all computers, Windows2000 is creating some problem.

Your help is appreciated.

Thanks..
-Serkan

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Answers

 

by: adept1Posted on 2001-04-03 at 00:08:22ID: 5981510

Make sure your machines are in the same workgroup or domain. Right click on My Network Places and then go to Properties. Then choose Network Identification from the Advanced menu.

 

by: JacquesDPosted on 2001-04-03 at 00:41:23ID: 5981574

I have the same problem
W2000 SP1 in worgroup can't see W95 and W98 in the same workgroup
BUT from W98 ou W95 I can see my W2000
Strange isn't it
//

 

by: ckngaiPosted on 2001-04-03 at 02:21:32ID: 5981828

I'd suggest you to check the hardware if you really sure the Windows setting is correct.
Try test the cable by using it on a PC you found working good now, or sure even more simple if you have a cable tester.

And there are special switch for uplink cable on the hub, please check your cable(crossed?) and the uplink switch (match with the switch?)


Look not a big chance on this malfunction, but still worth trying

Joseph

 

by: ckngaiPosted on 2001-04-03 at 02:38:57ID: 5981875

for JacquesD,

may be you can try out the LMHost,

Joseph

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2001-04-03 at 03:05:30ID: 5981925

CompuTurk, try installing netbeui on the w2k machine and the 9x machines. w2k uses tcp/ip by default, while 9x uses netbeui. If it's a small network, netbeui won't hurt the performance of the network with it's broadcasts

 

by: schmieguPosted on 2001-04-03 at 03:54:13ID: 5982033

You may install NetBEUI, but it's not necessary. You only have to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NBT): Network Neighborhood - LAN Connection - Properties - TCPIP - Advanced - WINS. It's disabled by default.

 

by: NushiPosted on 2001-04-03 at 08:28:53ID: 5982999

try to ping to the other computers from command prompt and let me know what are the resaults.

i fixed the same problem in our company few days ago.

aftre you will let me know what came out i will tell you what to do from there.

 

by: CompuTurkPosted on 2001-04-03 at 13:42:48ID: 5984020

schmiegu,
   Your answer seems logical, but does not that cause security issues? how can I make my computer be stealth to nbtstat requests....

-CompuTurk

 

by: AAmantePosted on 2001-04-03 at 20:45:47ID: 5984739

These are the steps I would take to troubleshoot a connection problem.

Try pinging your own NIC... then work out from there... try pinging the Linksys router, and then work out to one of the other computers.

First use IP addresses, if you are able too... try Netbios names.

If you can get to the Linksys router, you know it's not the 2000 NIC.  If you can get to the other computer by IP, then you know it's not the router (atleast not hardware-wise).

Check configurations on all of you TCP/IP protocols on each box.

Check the routing rules on the Linksys router.

If all of it looks right... hell... go to http://www.microsoft.com/technet and see if they have anything in the knowledge base there...

Good luck, hope that helps.

 

by: CompuTurkPosted on 2001-04-03 at 21:40:45ID: 5984835

All the computers can ping my router fine and they connect to the internet. Eventhough my Windows98 machines can see each other fine and my Windows2000 machine can connect to the net, but cannot see any of the machines online.

Do I have to enable NetBUI on all of my computer?

-CompuTurk

 

by: CompuTurkPosted on 2001-04-03 at 21:44:32ID: 5984841

Ok people I can see all the machine now. I had to put a check mark by the 'Use NetBIOS setting from the DHCP server'  but I am wondering if this creates a security issue.

Let me know, thx.
-CompuTurk

 

by: schmieguPosted on 2001-04-03 at 22:03:50ID: 5984861

If you block the UDP Ports 136 - 139 in the router, there will be no problem (in most routers they're blocked by default).

 

by: CompuTurkPosted on 2001-04-05 at 10:19:23ID: 5990439

Also why does my Windows2000 prompt for password when I try to access a folder that is shared over the network?

-CompuTurk

 

by: ckngaiPosted on 2001-04-05 at 11:10:39ID: 5990554

what machine is that net folder on? do your log-in ID have the access right over that share?
Win 2000 have muti-log-in function, so if it found your current log-in don't have permission to acess to certain net function, it may prompt you for another log-in pair for that share.

To avoid this, you can add your user ID to the shared folder (if you have such right), or simply check the 'remember password' box

Joseph

 

by: schmieguPosted on 2001-04-05 at 13:58:04ID: 5991085

WinNT (and W2k is WinNT in most respects) only shares by user level. And users need to authenticate when they request a resource. To access resources on a W2k computer you have three options (in decreasing security):
For each user create an account with the same username he uses on W9x
Create one user account with appropriate rights and have all logon to all W9x with this user
Enable the guest account on the W2k computer

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2001-04-05 at 14:19:22ID: 5991176

agree with schmiegu , make sure the user uses "client for MS networks" when they logon to the 9x machines, and use this info when you create the accounts on the w2k machine

 

by: stevenlewisPosted on 2001-04-05 at 14:20:32ID: 5991179

also don't forget to give these users permissions to the shares on the w2k machine

 

by: richardexPosted on 2002-11-15 at 06:11:12ID: 7453087

Aha!

by trial and error i may have got somewhere with this.

We have a number of small offices, and over time we have built up a mix of machines of various ages and operating systems.

The W98/W2000 thing has been driving me spare, not least for sharing printers on W98 machines.

I have tried the above, all to no avail - I should explain that with a Netware Server knocking around i try to avoid too many protocols on 9x machines.

BUT if you install the "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" service rather than the tick box file and printer sharing, all the machines reappear in the workgroup. This CAN slow down your network, but is not so bad if you avoid fixed ip addresses where you can - W2000 machines without fixed IP addresses can see (x machines with OR without IP addresses.

There is the possibility you all already knew this and are mocking me, but if it helps, good luck.

May i add my own caution about workgroups - EVERYONE seems to use the default name WORKGROUP for their workgroup - this is fine in itself, but be aware that this means that you can be seen across wireless networks and even LANS like broadband connections oh so easily - use an original workgroup name, or encrypt!

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