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Windows update problem for win98SE

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Something's wrong with windows update. I went to win update and it never completes looking for updates. It stays at 0% forever. Is it because there's something wrong with the registry?  Also can I delete ALL files in c:\windows\temp?

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Answers

 

by: CrazyOnePosted on 2003-03-09 at 16:00:44ID: 8099596

Could be that some time the MS Windows Update site isn't functioning properly. Keep trying.

Yes you can delete those files.

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-09 at 16:13:41ID: 8099652

I thought it has something to do with the registry because last time when I used win update, after installing and restarting, an error msg came up and said that there were something wrong with the registry and windows had to restart and fix it with the backup copy or something like that.  Then I went to win update again and the updates I had installed appeared as updates available.  So strage

Are you sure I can delete all of the temp files?  Together they are 1.2GB.

 

by: CrazyOnePosted on 2003-03-09 at 16:17:11ID: 8099664

Yeah you can delete them. The ones that are currently in use won't delete and Win98 will let you know this.

1.2GB that is a lot of disk space. You should clean this out periodically.

 

by: CrazyOnePosted on 2003-03-09 at 16:19:44ID: 8099680

Also use this

Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;186099

 

by: war1Posted on 2003-03-09 at 16:23:03ID: 8099697

Greetings, myplace!
   If your Windows Update "hangs" at the downloading dialog box, do the following:

Run these at the command line (the files will be re-registered):

regsvr32 msscript.ocx

regsvr32 dispex.dll

regsvr32 vbscript.dll

regsvr32 scrrun.dll

Then check if file (open) type .JS is properly associated:

Open Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types
Find .JS extension and click on "advanced"
Check and make sure the Application to perform action field
has this in it  C:\WINDOWS\WScript.exe "%1" %*

Best wishes, war1

 

by: rayt333Posted on 2003-03-09 at 17:52:56ID: 8100051

Why are you using the Win98 update? is there an update there that you really need? Or is it that you feel you just need to update because there is an update available?
Have you ever heard the old saying "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" ?
I used to be one of the first to get every available update, and I have spent many days recovering from the problems some of the so called updates caused. Now I only get an update if it affects my system and never until it has been tested by others, you know some of those updates were removed before I ever downloaded them because of the problems they caused.



As for why the updates you downloaded before are doing it again, something caused a registry error (your words) and the registry was recovered with an older copy that was before the updates were made, so as far as your system knows none of the updates were downloaded.

 

by: rayt333Posted on 2003-03-09 at 17:59:25ID: 8100070

By the way, I have an older computer (Win98) down in the basement I use to test parts and software with and I have never applied any of the updates to it and it still works like the day it was new.
No meltdowns, no smoke or fire coming from it, nothing at all.
Are those updates really needed? maybe, maybe not
I have them all downloaded just in case I will ever need them and before MS removes them from their site.

Did you know you could download them with out using the "update site"?

http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp

 

by: NovahuxPosted on 2003-03-09 at 18:12:30ID: 8100115

I Have seen the update 0% hang before.
the nobrainer solution is to re-install W98 over the top, choose no when asked to replace newer files when prompted.

Your program settings will not be alltered in anyway. Very safe & easy fix for your issue.

cheers m8

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-09 at 19:01:06ID: 8100282

war1, your instruction is too complicated for me and I don't understand.

My computer didn't freeze when searching for updates.  It just wouldn't response.

Novahux, does re-installing means formatting?

Now my computer doesn't know about the updates that had been installed, will this cause a problem?

 

by: rayt333Posted on 2003-03-09 at 19:08:43ID: 8100312

<Now my computer doesn't know about the updates that had been installed, will this cause a problem?>

By restoring the registry you have effectivly removed the updates. Maybe the files are still on your computer but they are no longer registered or in use. You must reinstall the updates to be able to have use of them.

Also only install one update at a time and reboot the computer at least twice before going back and installing another. This way you will find the problem child and can avoid it, or it is possible the problem child only shows up when a certain combination of updates are installed at the same time without rebooting in between.

 

by: war1Posted on 2003-03-09 at 19:26:13ID: 8100353

<< I went to win update and it never completes looking for updates. It stays at 0% forever.<<

This is what I mean by hang. The fix is straight forward. Many users of the Microsoft Windows Newsgroup use the fix the "hang" problem.

From the desktop, select Start > Run and type "regsvr32 msscript.ocx" without the quotes. Click OK.

Do the same for

regsvr32 dispex.dll

regsvr32 vbscript.dll

regsvr32 scrrun.dll

Part of the problem is that JS files are not being read correct. So you want to make the proper association. Check if file type .JS is properly associated:

Open Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types
Find .JS extension and click on "advanced"
Check and make sure the Application to perform action field
has this in it  C:\WINDOWS\WScript.exe "%1" %*

Click OK.

 

by: DwellPosted on 2003-03-09 at 19:53:04ID: 8100460

OK.....

Try going directly to www.microsoft.com and manually find windows update via links.  I was having the same problem and that seemed to have worked for me.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/default.mspx

 

by: NovahuxPosted on 2003-03-10 at 03:39:05ID: 8102063

Quote :Novahux, does re-installing means formatting?

No, just copy the win98 directory from the CD-ROM to the hard drive [c:].

Then restart and tap the F8 key.
From the boot menu, choose Command Prompt (MSDOS).

Then type
c:
cd\
cd win98
setup.exe

This will reinstall windows 98, but not remove and programs or documents that exist allready. Please choose the no option when asked to overwrite any newer files.

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-10 at 05:39:36ID: 8102697

Assumming the problem is fixed, before I reinstall the updates, am I supposed to uninstall the old updates first?

Novahux, I'll try your method if none of the above works.

 

by: CrazyOnePosted on 2003-03-10 at 06:35:07ID: 8103076

>>>am I supposed to uninstall the old updates first?

I never have but that doesn't mean you won't.

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-10 at 14:07:02ID: 8106355

If I don't, can my computer overwrite the old updates?

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-10 at 14:21:47ID: 8106467

war1, I found JScript script file but couldn't find the advanced bittpm/

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-10 at 14:30:11ID: 8106506

I'm not sure if this is what you want, instead of C:\WINDOWS\WScript.exe "%1" %* , i have c:\windows\Notepad.exe.

 

by: war1Posted on 2003-03-10 at 14:52:35ID: 8106632

myplace,
   If you are in the File Types window, yes, put in C:\WINDOWS\WScript.exe "%1" %* instead of Notepad. Hopefuly, this will fix your problem.

As a workaround, you can download Windows Updates with the free utility BigFix (www.bigfix.com)

 

by: CrazyOnePosted on 2003-03-11 at 10:07:05ID: 8113040

Have you tried running Update again?

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-11 at 15:01:39ID: 8115172

It doesn't work.  Maybe I did something wrong to the file types window.

 

by: rayt333Posted on 2003-03-11 at 15:10:57ID: 8115225

If you know what update you need then go to:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp

and download and install them manually. Most of them has a description of what they are for.

 

by: war1Posted on 2003-03-17 at 00:03:00ID: 8150113

myplace,
   I have not forgotten you, just thinking of a solution for your problem. Here is a great website for Trouble Shooting Windows Update.

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/troubleshoot/

In it is the solution that I provided. But for the last part of it, When I gave your the file association of JS, I gave you the incorrect directory. Here is the correct solution.

Make sure you re-register the following files, same as before.

registry32 msscript.ocx

regsvr32 dispex.dll

regsvr32 vbscript.dll

regsvr32 scrrun.dll

Here is what's different. Then check if file (open) type .JS is properly associated:

Open "Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types"
Find .JS extension and click on "advanced"
Check and make sure the Application to perform action field has this in it

C:\WINDOWS\System\WScript.exe "%1" %*


Hope you get this work.

Best wishes, war1

 

by: war1Posted on 2003-03-20 at 12:35:20ID: 8176671

myplace,
   We have not heard from you? Did any comment help you solve your problem? Do you have any more questions? If an Expert help you, please accept his/her answer and provide him with an excellent or good grade.

Thanks, war1

 

by: myplacePosted on 2003-03-25 at 16:40:48ID: 8207185

I'm sorry.  I was kind of busy lately.  Thanks for everyone's help.

 

by: war1Posted on 2003-03-25 at 18:01:14ID: 8207501

myplace, glad we could help. Best wishes, war1

 

by: unhumanPosted on 2003-05-21 at 19:43:53ID: 8561584

I've got the same problem and this didn't fix it...  Download updates just hang from the IE browser.

myplace, did you get this working?

Thanks - Howie

 

by: unhumanPosted on 2003-05-21 at 19:51:12ID: 8561618

BTW - one thing I did do...  

I upgraded windows scripting host to version 5.6 and the crash when I hit the cancel button went away....  
With the original wscript.exe, it would crash at that time...

Of course, it still don't be workin.

Howie

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