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Decommissioning Windows NT 4.0

Asked by: investorscapital

We are currently running on two domains; one AD on Server 2008 and the other NT 4.0.

Before we shutdown our NT domain we want to make sure there is not anything/anyone still accessing/authenticating on this domain.

All of our users, workstations, and servers are authenticating on AD, having said that, we are looking for some type of monitoring tool or process we can take to be 100% sure shutting down the NT server will not cause any problems.

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2009-11-05 at 11:07:47ID24875627
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Answers

 

by: netcmhPosted on 2009-11-05 at 11:11:15ID: 25752797

If it was a migration from an NT4 domain to a new AD domain, then the NT4 domain is now not needed anymore. Just shut the machine off.
If this was an inplace-upgrade from an NT4 domain to an AD domain, then this machine isn't a PDC anymore (as the PDC has been upgraded), but a BDC. You can shut it down and reinstall, and delete the computer object in the Domain Controllers OU.
Unlike W2k or later, NT4 doesn't require (in fact, it's not even possible) to demote a DC.

 

by: netcmhPosted on 2009-11-05 at 11:11:38ID: 25752801

also if this was a trusted domain don't forget to deal with any permissions left stamped against files on other servers with the old domain specified - it's easier to remove them when you can see them than when they turn into an anonymous looking SID entry.  If there is one then remove any trust on the W2K3 side with your old domain using AD domains & trusts.

 

by: netcmhPosted on 2009-11-05 at 11:12:04ID: 25752806

btw, you can remove the trusts when the NT4 server is offline

 

by: investorscapitalPosted on 2009-11-05 at 11:19:51ID: 25752886

It was not an upgrade. It was a totally separate domain that we gradually moved users and machines over to.

 

by: netcmhPosted on 2009-11-05 at 11:22:39ID: 25752921

I'm not aware of any monitoring tool to verify a success. As long as you're authenticating to your 2008, and your not using any of the NT's services - just unplug it.

 

by: investorscapitalPosted on 2009-11-05 at 11:25:09ID: 25752949

That is the issue. I don't know if everything is authenticating on '08. The network has so many legacy applications and users that we want to make sure NT is not being touched before we shut it down.

 

by: netcmhPosted on 2009-11-05 at 11:31:45ID: 25753011

look in server manager on the NT4 box, does it see itself as the PDC and the 2K8 box as a BDC?
look in AD Users and Computers on the 2K8 box, it sees itself as the only domain controller - you're fine
Other than the usual print and file sharing, if you've migrated everything else - you should be golden.

 

by: investorscapitalPosted on 2009-11-05 at 12:49:16ID: 25753855

Neither DC is listed on the other DC. They are both the primary domain.

I don't know if we have migrated everything, this is what I am trying to find out.

 

by: leewPosted on 2009-11-05 at 13:02:48ID: 25753996

You can use Network Monitor / Wire Shark to see traffic going into and out of the system, but frankly, I'd just turn it off.  If something breaks, the fix is obvious... turn it on.

 

by: netcmhPosted on 2009-11-05 at 13:46:13ID: 25754406

I'm sorry but did not my comments help? I was wondering why you couldn't split the points?

 

by: leewPosted on 2009-11-05 at 14:00:03ID: 25754521

It would have been good if the asker had included a comment in the accepted answer.  If the reason they accepted the answer was because they intended to examine the network traffic using one of the tools I suggested, then in my opinion, no split was appropriate.  If they liked the idea of just shutting it off then a split or different answer would have been appropriate.

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