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2007-02-16 at 17:59:43ID22395604
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Answers

 

by: MeretePosted on 2007-02-16 at 18:10:28ID: 18553551

I dont understand your question versatek1
if this is a document of legal pleading do you have the right to edit them?
Otherwise what is the problem simply scan them and save to pc as once scanned they are a word document.
Then edit them?
cheers

 

by: MeretePosted on 2007-02-16 at 18:12:12ID: 18553556

You'll need a scanner printer attached to your pc.
This is the one I have its not expensive and works great comes with scanner and printer all in one
http://www.canon.com.au/products/all_in_one_printers/all_in_one_printers/mp780.html

 

by: versatek1Posted on 2007-02-16 at 20:47:17ID: 18553951

Sorry, let me explain it more.....When you scan a pleading paper as text in order to edit it, you have a lot of format problems and you might as well retype it.  (#'s and various columns down left side)  how do scan only the text, and save the text back into a pleading template.

 

by: MeretePosted on 2007-02-16 at 21:10:26ID: 18553996

I see your point. Never simply hey.
Are these in PDF?
If you can load the pleading paper as is into your pc you coudl use the edit select tool to modify sections  of text withour losing the original. Is that possible?
You cannot expect the documents you scan to perfectly resemble the original item. You should plan time to do some editing and cleaning in Microsoft Word after you have scanned your text.
You will get the best results from text scanning when your original item is relatively simple, has no graphics, and has very little formatting

see if this can help you.
Scanning editable text
http://www.city.ac.uk/client_services/computerrooms/scantext.html
http://www2.fhs.usyd.edu.au/arow/o/m13/scan_txt.htm

Creating and Publishing Pleadings with WordPerfect® 12
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel2/Products/Content&pid=1047022958453&cid=1047024298157

Working with the Legal Tools in WordPerfect
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel3/Section/Display&sid=1047024315119&gid=1047024331836&cid=1047023050324

hope this helps you

 

by: qz8dswPosted on 2007-02-16 at 21:22:57ID: 18554023

Scanning taking in the formatting and fonts would be difficult unless they are standard fonts with no funny things like wingdings etc....  Windows "standard" fonts not a problem. Most OCR software will handle that if inserting into Word or the such.
Then inserting it into a standard pleading template?
What if someones columns/margins are different to the template?

Agreed doing just "plain text" you might as well re-type it.

Wouldn't you be better to get some good OCR software that scans as Rich Text or directly into word that tried to preserve the document look?
My knowledge of them is limited but I have seen some that are very good at doing that as long as it's standard fonts.
Sometimes theres some fixing with columns etc....

I'll have a dig around and see what I can find but I'm sure there are experts on here that are more knowledgeable about that than me. Perhaps look at moving this to the Microsoft Word Area by asking in community support.  

 

by: MeretePosted on 2007-02-16 at 22:11:28ID: 18554138

most experts cover all  TA topics here at EE qz8dsw:

 

by: Calmar46Posted on 2007-02-17 at 11:39:03ID: 18556195

I believe you will find a product here (QUITE PRICEY!) to do what you wish with some template capability as well:

http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_ocr/

 

by: versatek1Posted on 2007-02-17 at 15:39:41ID: 18556919

I'll try a couple of these out next week and let you know.

Great ideas

 

by: Calmar46Posted on 2007-02-17 at 16:52:15ID: 18557109

Neglected to mention: I believe abbyy offers trial downloads.

 

by: MeretePosted on 2007-02-17 at 18:17:00ID: 18557263

good luck, do come back your feedback is important.
cheers

 

by: trh01Posted on 2007-02-27 at 02:57:08ID: 18615856

What you need is OCR (optical character recognition) software.   This converts a scanned image, which is just a photo, into machine readable text, which then can be edited in Word (or any other word processing program).

On the basis that a) this is a professional job, b) errors in the output text could be extremely costly/unfortunate, I would recommend going for the best possible OCR software.   Naturally all manufacturers claim their own software is the most accurate, etc, etc.  I have not been able to find any independent comparisons on the web, so I will recommend a couple that I have used myself:

1.   Omnipage - http://www.nuance.com/omnipage/

2.  Finereader - http://www.abbyy.com/

My experience is that getting the correct scan settings is critical to getting good OCR accuracy.   I would generally use a scan resolution of 300dpi and use greyscale mode.  

Note that there may be specific legal terms that the above software does not have in its dictionaries.  These can be added as work progresses (you only need new words once).

Given the importance of avoiding errors, checking of the OCR'd text will be essential!

Richard

 

by: dgbutterworthPosted on 2007-03-26 at 00:47:32ID: 18791190

This is what I do, and it works quite well, and I think other OCR programs will do this also:

Scan an image for OCR (pdf, tiff, whatever)
Create a "template" to cover the area of the page that is text (so you don't get the "pleading paper" margin stuff - I leave out out page numbers and running headers);
Do OCR to a plan text document ... no formating, or as little as possible.
Create styles in your word processor.  For a pleading, you probably only need:  Headings 1 2 3 .. Body Text, Block Quote (although I have a few more than that)

Assign each of these styles to keys (e.g. Atl-1 = Heading 1 ... , Alt-t = body text, Alt-B = block quote).  (This is very useful when you write pleadings from scratch ;) :D - sometimes it must be done.  You can even write in sngle space body text (and see more) then change Body text to double space, print, file)

With this, you can format a pleading in about 34 seconds.

Good luck, DGB

 

by: dgbutterworthPosted on 2007-03-26 at 00:50:59ID: 18791201

Ooops - Forgot to say: I use Omnipage to do the OCR (and I know you can make templates with it, so that only parts of the page are submitted for OCR).  I don't know if other programs can be "controlled" with a template, but that is what you need, to solve the "pleading paper problem"

Good luck, DGB

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