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Cannot Boot Vista after attempting to install XP

Asked by: Ryan_R

I am following this guide to install XP to an empty partition: http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp#restoring

As shown in the guide - after installing the first phase of XP, some users will get an error loading OS (as I am).
I have booted from my Vista DVD and run the Startup repair.  The first time that I ran it it said that my BCD was corrupt and that it fixed it.

However I still connot boot. After ignoring the prompt to boot CD/DVD, I get the following:
Press Any key to boot from CD/DVD. . . . .  Error loading operating system

I have tried to run the startup repair off the Vista disk again - but now it says that no errors were found.

I have checked the startup options in the BIOS and everything is correct. There are no unbootable CD's or Floppy disks in any drives (or USB disks).

How can I get back into Vista - it's imperitve that I get back into it soon (as is always the case when someone asks a question)  :o)

Regards,
Ryan

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Answers

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-27 at 23:32:45ID: 19780753

Just letting you know that I have the Ultimate BootCD for Windows if I need it

 

by: rindiPosted on 2007-08-27 at 23:51:43ID: 19780813

Can you use one of the partitioning tools on the UBCD (some newer ubcd4win include the standard UBCD, otherwise download it) and make sure the vista partition is set to active?

http://ultimatebootcd.com

 

by: nobusPosted on 2007-08-28 at 00:27:05ID: 19780949

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 00:37:57ID: 19780988

The Vista partition is active

I would have thought that I need to get Vista working, then run EasyBCD to get Vista AND XP working together.
I'll see if I can install EasyBCD on the UBCD

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 00:44:40ID: 19781016

I cannot install EasyBCD on the UBCD - "Can't write: %SystemDrive%\Programs\.........."

Any other ideas?
I would format my Vista partition as my docs are on a separate partition - but I really don't want to have to reinstall my Programs, etc.  I'd like to keep programs and registry as is.

Does Vista have a repair feature like XP - where you only lose windows updates?

 

by: sanjumc27Posted on 2007-08-28 at 01:13:33ID: 19781149

using windows xp service pack 2 cd ; go to repair mode;

boot from cd ;
select firsy repair;
once you get the command mode type
CHKDSK /R
Try Reboot;

PLS keep in mind dont install vista and Xp in same drive ..

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 01:23:53ID: 19781186

Same drive - 2 partitions
how's the XP recovery console going to help?


as far as I know, I need to:
Boot into Vista
Run EasyBCD and create an entry for XP
Continue installing XP

 

by: rindiPosted on 2007-08-28 at 03:22:44ID: 19781626

Yes, Vista has a repair install option like XP does. Just start from the install CD and it should come up.

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 04:19:39ID: 19781871

Where exactly - when I click Repair Your Computer - it lets me choose from:
-Startup Repair
-System restore
-Windows complete system restore
-Windows memory diagnostic tool
-Command prompt

How would I initialize a full repair of windows? - Do I have to continue with the setup process and select something later on? (I'll try this soon and let you know). Further suggestions welcome...

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 04:33:43ID: 19781958


There is absolutely no visible option to repair Vista just like you would Windows 2000 or XP - what were MS thinking - were they so confiden that no-one would have to repair or something?      :mad:

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 04:39:41ID: 19781982

After going back ot the main menu of the Vista Setup DVD I clicked 'Repair Your Computer' again (since I had fiddled with MBR programs in the UBCD before). Before asking which option to choose from it said that it automatically found problems and presented me with a button labelled "Repair and Restart".

I clicked this hoping for the best - I still get an error essage - but it has now changed to:
"Press any key to boot from CD or DVD. . . . . . Missing operating system"

Now what?    :o)
Ryan

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2007-08-28 at 05:06:48ID: 19782117

According to this web page, you can repair Vista by using an option of reinstalling it over itself, as you could in XP:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/repair_a_vista_installation_using_the_upgrade_option_of_the_vista_dvd.htm

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 05:09:51ID: 19782128

Thanks for the link - however I am booting from the Vista DVD and cannot choose the 'upgrade' option

 

by: rindiPosted on 2007-08-28 at 05:20:20ID: 19782179

The startup repair should do the same as what you do in XP when you run a repair installation. The problem is that if it can't find any normal errors it'll think there is nothing wrong and won't repair anything.

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 14:46:31ID: 19787208

The error has changed from "Error loading operating system" to "Missing operating system"

Does this mean that there is a fault with the BCD (and that the MBR is now ok)?

Perhaps there are files I can copy from one of your PC's over to mine

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 15:00:54ID: 19787281

When attempting to install Vista over itself (on the same partition) I get the following warning:

'There's already a version of Windows on this partition. It will get renamed to C:\WINDOWS.old. The files will still be accessible on the HDD, but you won't be able to boot into that instance of Windows.'

That doesn't sound like it will keep my registry and program files intact...

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 15:45:52ID: 19787501


Fortunately (very fortunatly) I fixed this with the aid of this link:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392

I booted from the Vista DVD, select Repair your Computer - and launched command prompt:
" bcdedit /export C:\BCD_Backup
" c:
" cd boot
" attrib bcd -s -h -r
" ren c:\boot\bcd bcd.old
" bootrec /RebuildBcd
" bootrec /FixMbr
" bootrec /FixBoot

When I restarted My G:\ was coming up as F:\ - so I had to change that and restart (as all my Docs, Desktop, and Programs are there).
And now all apears to be fine.

Thanks for having a shot. I have to go out now, but I will award points for having a shot later on (unless Lee closes this before I get a chance)   :o)

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 17:09:47ID: 19787798

I've made a closing request here (also asking that you get some points):

http:Q_22793140.html

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2007-08-28 at 17:19:26ID: 19787823

Thanks, Ryan_R.  I wish my memory were better: I've seen that MSKB article that solved it before, but the senile old brain "hiccupped" and didn't feed that info to me...

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-28 at 17:32:15ID: 19787865

That's alright Lee

I haven't been to EE in a while - I just noticed that the average time for getting to questions has gone up from 23 mins to 43 mins - what going on?  :o)

 

by: sanjumc27Posted on 2007-08-29 at 00:38:47ID: 19789342

solution is simple ; after installing xp ; windows boot loader is correpted ; fix the boot loader using any third party tool; other information i will tell you later

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-29 at 00:43:16ID: 19789359

Solution wasn't that simple but I have provided it above if others ever experience this same issue.
Vista's 'Startup Repair' option wasn't very helpful as it didn't repair the startup and I had to run those commands manually.

I now have Vista and XP dual-booting without problems.

 

by: sanjumc27Posted on 2007-08-29 at 01:10:08ID: 19789457



The processes below enable one to recover the ability to boot into Windows Vista in the instance where Windows Vista was installed on the system drive and the boot system files [Boot (folder), bootmgr, Boot.BAK and BOOTSECT.BAK], have not been damaged or removed.


1. To install a previous version of Windows onto a computer running Windows Vista  

With Windows Vista as well as in Windows Vista Build 5456, the only command one needs to run is:

bootsect /NT60 ALL

(Copy bootsect.exe from the boot folder of your Windows Vista DVD and paste it into your Windows XP Windows\system32 folder)

This pulls all Windows operating systems into the Windows Vista boot menu.




1. Install the previous version of Windows.

2. Log on to the older operating system and restore the latest boot manager by running the following command from the run dialogue box (fixntfs.exe will be in the \boot directory of the active partition which is usually C:\ Drive).

C:\boot\fixntfs /lh

3. Create a BCD (Boot Configuration Data) entry for the older operating system by specifying the following.

bcdedit.exe is located in the \Windows\System32 directory of the Windows Vista partition. To access bcdedit.exe from within Windows XP you need to use the Command Prompt (DOS Window) and point to bcdedit.exe.

Description is the description of the new entry for the older operating system.

bcdedit /create {legacy} /d Description 

bcdedit /set {legacy} device boot

bcdedit /set {legacy} path \ntldr

bcdedit /displayorder {legacy} /addlast

4. Restart the computer in order for the changes to take effect.


 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-29 at 01:21:14ID: 19789492

After completing step 1 (installing 1st phase of XP) - I couldn't boot into any OS. (Recall error message "Missing operating system"). So I wouldn't be able to follow your steps. Also - if i were able to get into XP I would have just ran EasyBCD to fix it up (that was my original plan, as I was expecting XP setup to continue flawlessly).

PS - Welcome to EE.

 

by: sanjumc27Posted on 2007-08-29 at 01:34:08ID: 19789553

if you get error like missing operating system; please check your HDD; it may be fail to laoad bootstrap (means its a perm failure) ; check in bios ;is your HDD is detecting or not; try ERD commander and try to fix .or other waise use any utility cd and try to rebuild partition table;
use; partition table doctor

 

by: Ryan_RPosted on 2007-08-29 at 01:38:36ID: 19789571

Just in case you missed it  :o)
http:#19787501

 

by: sanjumc27Posted on 2007-08-29 at 06:40:52ID: 19791091

make windows vista partition active

 

by: sanjumc27Posted on 2007-08-29 at 06:51:42ID: 19791207

Check the following conditions ..

1.The basic input/output system (BIOS) does not detect the hard disk.
2. The hard disk is damaged.
3. Sector 0 of the physical hard disk drive has an incorrect or malformed Master Boot Record (MBR).

4. Note Some third-party programs or disk corruption can damage an MBR.
5. An incompatible partition is marked as Active.

I think it may help to trouble shoot your problem
6. A partition that contains the MBR is no longer active.

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2007-08-29 at 06:53:04ID: 19791228

sanjumc27, this question is already answered, by the questioner Ryan_R himself!  Take a look at the comment right before your last one and click on the link...

 

by: sanjumc27Posted on 2007-08-29 at 07:13:28ID: 19791452

THX Lee

 

by: rindiPosted on 2007-08-30 at 10:46:35ID: 19802429

No objection

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2007-08-30 at 11:13:36ID: 19802653

ditto.

 

by: tonybrunoPosted on 2007-11-03 at 04:40:14ID: 20206559

Btw, you want to use the /rebuildbcd command without /fixboot and /fixmbr, just the following works best:

 bcdedit /export C:\BCD_Backup
 c:
 cd boot
 attrib bcd -s -h -r
 ren c:\boot\bcd bcd.old
 bootrec /RebuildBcd

now when you get back to the repair menu, click "Startup Repair" and it should verify that your good to go.  

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